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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
We have gotten to writing rather quickly and I'm sure the editors will
not have adequately digested all the points of view in the hundreds
(how soon will we hit a thousand?) emails. Getting a first pass down
will be useful but it will then fall on careful review by the
non-editors to provide alternative content to catch important points
that are missed or provide corrections to interpretations that do not
represent consensus. If some portions need more in-depth thought,
hopefully this process will bring those issues to light.
Ken
On May 4, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> I would like to capitalize on the momentum we have to complete the RM
> quickly, so it can be applied sooner than later. Respectfully, I
> think that it would be foolish for us to "slow down" to accomadate
> members who cannot devote a serious amount of time to this effort.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
> Rex Brooks wrote:
>
>> Both.
>>
>> This is not to say that I think any part of work is wrong or flawed,
>> only that I have not had sufficient time to absorb it.
>>
>> Rex
>>
>> At 8:24 AM -0400 5/4/05, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> <Quote>
>>
>>> I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a more
>>> deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention and hype
>>> subside
>>
>>> </Quote>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Rex,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Is your reference to the flurry above regarding activities within
>>> our TC, or externally (the press coverage, etc.)?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Joe
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Joseph Chiusano
>>
>>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>>
>>> Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com <http://www.boozallen.com/>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *From:* Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:18 AM
>>> *To:* soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> *Subject:* [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise
>>> apps
>>>
>>> I thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing
>>> a bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and
>>> providing models and definitions, which strikes me as very
>>> indicative of the kind of frenzied activity that we see when a
>>> 'buzz' word or concept makes the rounds. This is exactly what I
>>> meant when I started working on my recent series of articles on
>>> EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation?
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a
>>> four-part series and long enough for a short book by itself and
>>> not dedicated to SOA per se, and that is not the thrust of this
>>> message, which is, to be honest counter-intuitive. I would like
>>> us to simply hold off on pushing forward so vigorously that even
>>> if we deliver a spec in record time and letter perfect down to
>>> its manicured toenails, it will be lost in this confusion of
>>> "experts" including my own contribution to the overall "mess."
>>> Also, after having been through several larger efforts to build
>>> standards for more narrowly focused technologies, I begin to
>>> distrust anything that hasn't taken at least a year to work its
>>> way through a vigorous process.
>>>
>>>
>>> While the editors are to be commended for producing drafts so
>>> quickly, I haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the
>>> agenda for today's meeting, let alone what the long term
>>> implications and ramifications of these definitions and terms
>>> actually represent. Perhaps as another indication of why I find
>>> this whole topic somewhat alarming for the rapidity with which it
>>> is overtaking both the trade press and the IT providers, I am
>>> actually getting an online demo of an SOA-specific product today,
>>> which I won't bother naming since I haven't had a chance to view
>>> it yet, but the very fact that it pushed its way on to my
>>> schedule after last week and in time to overlap with today's
>>> meeting, which I will attend even if I am not actively discussing
>>> much, supports my point--the hurrier I go the behinder I get.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a
>>> more deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention
>>> and hype subside while we pore over this in a bit more thorough
>>> way. I recognize that this is unlikely to receive a favorable
>>> reception, but the faster we go, no matter how thorough we think
>>> we are being, the more I am convinced that our work will be
>>> flawed seriously for lack of enough time for our collection of
>>> brains to gain sufficient perspective to view our own enterprise
>>> here in a more balanced and objective way.
>>>
>>>
>>> However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>
>>> Rex
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> From: "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com"
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>>>> To: rexb@starbourne.com
>>>> Subject: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
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>>
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>> --
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>> Rex Brooks
>> President, CEO
>> Starbourne Communications Design
>> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
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>> Tel: 510-849-2309
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