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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
"Interoperability, excellence and alcohol." Duane Chiusano Joseph wrote: > Μπορείτε να δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "Join Our TC"? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] > Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 1:00 PM > Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps > > Rex: > > I believe we all share your vision of "technical excellence". > > I was actually toying with the idea of getting a shirt design for our > TC. Came up with a rather edgy design - the top would have "OASIS SOA RM > TC in arced letters, the middle with a skull and an eye patch, then at > the bottom the greek words "Μπορείτε να δοκιμάσετε πάλι: " > > Duane > > Rex Brooks wrote: > > > I thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing a > > bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and providing > > models and definitions, which strikes me as very indicative of the > > kind of frenzied activity that we see when a 'buzz' word or concept > > makes the rounds. This is exactly what I meant when I started working > > on my recent series of articles on EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation? > > > > I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a four-part > > series and long enough for a short book by itself and not dedicated to > > SOA per se, and that is not the thrust of this message, which is, to > > be honest counter-intuitive. I would like us to simply hold off on > > pushing forward so vigorously that even if we deliver a spec in record > > time and letter perfect down to its manicured toenails, it will be > > lost in this confusion of "experts" including my own contribution to > > the overall "mess." Also, after having been through several larger > > efforts to build standards for more narrowly focused technologies, I > > begin to distrust anything that hasn't taken at least a year to work > > its way through a vigorous process. > > > > While the editors are to be commended for producing drafts so quickly, > > I haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the agenda for > > today's meeting, let alone what the long term implications and > > ramifications of these definitions and terms actually represent. > > Perhaps as another indication of why I find this whole topic somewhat > > alarming for the rapidity with which it is overtaking both the trade > > press and the IT providers, I am actually getting an online demo of an > > SOA-specific product today, which I won't bother naming since I > > haven't had a chance to view it yet, but the very fact that it pushed > > its way on to my schedule after last week and in time to overlap with > > today's meeting, which I will attend even if I am not actively > > discussing much, supports my point--the hurrier I go the behinder I get. > > > > I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a more > > deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention and hype > > subside while we pore over this in a bit more thorough way. I > > recognize that this is unlikely to receive a favorable reception, but > > the faster we go, no matter how thorough we think we are being, the > > more I am convinced that our work will be flawed seriously for lack of > > enough time for our collection of brains to gain sufficient > > perspective to view our own enterprise here in a more balanced and > > objective way. > > > > However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much. > > > > Ciao, > > Rex > > > > > >> X-sbi: accucast > >> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT) > >> From: "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com" > >> <CNET_Networks_Member_Services@newsletter.online.com> > >> Reply-To: > >> "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com" > >> <CNET_Networks_#3.147048.33373833383235@newsletters.online.com> > >> To: rexb@starbourne.com > >> Subject: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps > >> X-Accutrak: > CNET_Networks_#3.147048.33373833383235@newsletters.online.com > >> X-Rcpt-To: <rexb@starbourne.com> > >> X-DPOP: Version number supressed > > > >> Trouble viewing this mail? 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