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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps


"Interoperability, excellence and alcohol."

Duane

Chiusano Joseph wrote:

> Μπορείτε να δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "Join Our TC"?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
> Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 1:00 PM
> Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
>
> Rex:
>
> I believe we all share your vision of "technical excellence".
>
> I was actually toying with the idea of getting a shirt design for our
> TC. Came up with a rather edgy design - the top would have "OASIS SOA RM
> TC in arced letters, the middle with a skull and an eye patch, then at
> the bottom the greek words "Μπορείτε να δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "
>
> Duane
>
> Rex Brooks wrote:
>
> > I thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing a
> > bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and providing
> > models and definitions, which strikes me as very indicative of the
> > kind of frenzied activity that we see when a 'buzz' word or concept
> > makes the rounds. This is exactly what I meant when I started working
> > on my recent series of articles on EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation?
> >
> > I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a four-part
> > series and long enough for a short book by itself and not dedicated to
> > SOA per se, and that is not the thrust of this message, which is, to
> > be honest counter-intuitive. I would like us to simply hold off on
> > pushing forward so vigorously that even if we deliver a spec in record
> > time and letter perfect down to its manicured toenails, it will be
> > lost in this confusion of "experts" including my own contribution to
> > the overall "mess." Also, after having been through several larger
> > efforts to build standards for more narrowly focused technologies, I
> > begin to distrust anything that hasn't taken at least a year to work
> > its way through a vigorous process.
> >
> > While the editors are to be commended for producing drafts so quickly,
> > I haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the agenda for
> > today's meeting, let alone what the long term implications and
> > ramifications of these definitions and terms actually represent.
> > Perhaps as another indication of why I find this whole topic somewhat
> > alarming for the rapidity with which it is overtaking both the trade
> > press and the IT providers, I am actually getting an online demo of an
> > SOA-specific product today, which I won't bother naming since I
> > haven't had a chance to view it yet, but the very fact that it pushed
> > its way on to my schedule after last week and in time to overlap with
> > today's meeting, which I will attend even if I am not actively
> > discussing much, supports my point--the hurrier I go the behinder I get.
> >
> > I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a more
> > deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention and hype
> > subside while we pore over this in a bit more thorough way. I
> > recognize that this is unlikely to receive a favorable reception, but
> > the faster we go, no matter how thorough we think we are being, the
> > more I am convinced that our work will be flawed seriously for lack of
> > enough time for our collection of brains to gain sufficient
> > perspective to view our own enterprise here in a more balanced and
> > objective way.
> >
> > However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much.
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Rex
> >
> >
> >> X-sbi: accucast
> >> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com"
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> >> Subject: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
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