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Title: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
Yes, I advise folks to be very careful of that particular online translation service. See the following Jan 2004 thread from the ebXML Registry archives:
 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200401/msg00213.html (my message - true story!)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200401/msg00214.html (Matt MacKenzie's followup)
 
Joe

 

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From: Frank McCabe [mailto:frank.mccabe@us.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 1:35 PM
To: Duane Nickull
Cc: Chiusano Joseph; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps

LOL:
  I tried to translate this using the dashboard translation widget:

   Can try again

Frank

On May 4, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:

> "Interoperability, excellence and alcohol."
>
> Duane
>
> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>
>
>> Μπορείτε να δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "Join Our TC"?
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>> Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 1:00 PM
>> Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise 
>> apps
>>
>> Rex:
>>
>> I believe we all share your vision of "technical excellence".
>>
>> I was actually toying with the idea of getting a shirt design for our
>> TC. Came up with a rather edgy design - the top would have "OASIS 
>> SOA RM
>> TC in arced letters, the middle with a skull and an eye patch, 
>> then at
>> the bottom the greek words "Μπορείτε να 
>> δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "
>>
>> Duane
>>
>> Rex Brooks wrote:
>>
>> > I thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing a
>> > bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and providing
>> > models and definitions, which strikes me as very indicative of the
>> > kind of frenzied activity that we see when a 'buzz' word or concept
>> > makes the rounds. This is exactly what I meant when I started 
>> working
>> > on my recent series of articles on EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation?
>> >
>> > I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a four-
>> part
>> > series and long enough for a short book by itself and not 
>> dedicated to
>> > SOA per se, and that is not the thrust of this message, which 
>> is, to
>> > be honest counter-intuitive. I would like us to simply hold off on
>> > pushing forward so vigorously that even if we deliver a spec in 
>> record
>> > time and letter perfect down to its manicured toenails, it will be
>> > lost in this confusion of "experts" including my own 
>> contribution to
>> > the overall "mess." Also, after having been through several larger
>> > efforts to build standards for more narrowly focused 
>> technologies, I
>> > begin to distrust anything that hasn't taken at least a year to 
>> work
>> > its way through a vigorous process.
>> >
>> > While the editors are to be commended for producing drafts so 
>> quickly,
>> > I haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the agenda for
>> > today's meeting, let alone what the long term implications and
>> > ramifications of these definitions and terms actually represent.
>> > Perhaps as another indication of why I find this whole topic 
>> somewhat
>> > alarming for the rapidity with which it is overtaking both the 
>> trade
>> > press and the IT providers, I am actually getting an online demo 
>> of an
>> > SOA-specific product today, which I won't bother naming since I
>> > haven't had a chance to view it yet, but the very fact that it 
>> pushed
>> > its way on to my schedule after last week and in time to overlap 
>> with
>> > today's meeting, which I will attend even if I am not actively
>> > discussing much, supports my point--the hurrier I go the 
>> behinder I get.
>> >
>> > I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a more
>> > deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention and hype
>> > subside while we pore over this in a bit more thorough way. I
>> > recognize that this is unlikely to receive a favorable 
>> reception, but
>> > the faster we go, no matter how thorough we think we are being, the
>> > more I am convinced that our work will be flawed seriously for 
>> lack of
>> > enough time for our collection of brains to gain sufficient
>> > perspective to view our own enterprise here in a more balanced and
>> > objective way.
>> >
>> > However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much.
>> >
>> > Ciao,
>> > Rex
>> >
>> >
>> >> X-sbi: accucast
>> >> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
>> >> From: "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com"
>> >> <CNET_Networks_Member_Services@newsletter.online.com>
>> >> Reply-To:
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>> >> Subject: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
>> >> X-Accutrak: 
>> CNET_Networks_#3.147048.33373833383235@newsletters.online.com
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