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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
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On May
4, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:
> "Interoperability,
excellence and alcohol."
>
> Duane
>
> Chiusano Joseph
wrote:
>
>
>> Μπορείτε να δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "Join Our
TC"?
>>
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>> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>
Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 1:00 PM
>> Cc:
soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd:
[TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise
>>
apps
>>
>> Rex:
>>
>> I believe we all share
your vision of "technical excellence".
>>
>> I was actually
toying with the idea of getting a shirt design for our
>> TC. Came up
with a rather edgy design - the top would have "OASIS
>> SOA
RM
>> TC in arced letters, the middle with a skull and an eye
patch,
>> then at
>> the bottom the greek words
"Μπορείτε να
>> δοκιμάσετε πάλι: "
>>
>>
Duane
>>
>> Rex Brooks wrote:
>>
>> > I
thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing a
>>
> bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and
providing
>> > models and definitions, which strikes me as very
indicative of the
>> > kind of frenzied activity that we see when a
'buzz' word or concept
>> > makes the rounds. This is exactly what I
meant when I started
>> working
>> > on my recent
series of articles on EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation?
>> >
>>
> I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a
four-
>> part
>> > series and long enough for a short book
by itself and not
>> dedicated to
>> > SOA per se,
and that is not the thrust of this message, which
>> is,
to
>> > be honest counter-intuitive. I would like us to simply hold
off on
>> > pushing forward so vigorously that even if we deliver a
spec in
>> record
>> > time and letter perfect down
to its manicured toenails, it will be
>> > lost in this confusion of
"experts" including my own
>> contribution to
>> >
the overall "mess." Also, after having been through several larger
>>
> efforts to build standards for more narrowly focused
>>
technologies, I
>> > begin to distrust anything that hasn't taken at
least a year to
>> work
>> > its way through a
vigorous process.
>> >
>> > While the editors are to be
commended for producing drafts so
>> quickly,
>> > I
haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the agenda for
>>
> today's meeting, let alone what the long term implications and
>>
> ramifications of these definitions and terms actually
represent.
>> > Perhaps as another indication of why I find this
whole topic
>> somewhat
>> > alarming for the
rapidity with which it is overtaking both the
>>
trade
>> > press and the IT providers, I am actually getting an
online demo
>> of an
>> > SOA-specific product today,
which I won't bother naming since I
>> > haven't had a chance to
view it yet, but the very fact that it
>> pushed
>> >
its way on to my schedule after last week and in time to
overlap
>> with
>> > today's meeting, which I will
attend even if I am not actively
>> > discussing much, supports my
point--the hurrier I go the
>> behinder I get.
>>
>
>> > I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down
to a more
>> > deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of
attention and hype
>> > subside while we pore over this in a bit
more thorough way. I
>> > recognize that this is unlikely to receive
a favorable
>> reception, but
>> > the faster we go,
no matter how thorough we think we are being, the
>> > more I am
convinced that our work will be flawed seriously for
>> lack
of
>> > enough time for our collection of brains to gain
sufficient
>> > perspective to view our own enterprise here in a
more balanced and
>> > objective way.
>> >
>>
> However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much.
>>
>
>> > Ciao,
>> > Rex
>> >
>>
>
>> >> X-sbi: accucast
>> >> Date: Wed, 4 May
2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
>> >> From: "Enterprise Applications at
TechRepublic.com"
>> >>
<CNET_Networks_Member_Services@newsletter.online.com>
>> >>
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>> >>
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>> To: rexb@starbourne.com
>> >> Subject: [TechRepublic]
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>> >
>> > Rex Brooks
>> > President,
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>> >
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