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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Thoughts on document title


Yes - what I did not want to end up with is some axiom that says "SOA is 
only SOA if you have these [yet undefined] things AND you are an 
enterprise".

I suggest that the glossary editor remove the reference to EA in the 
glossary.

Is that Peter Brown?

Duane

tmathews@lmi.org wrote:

>Duane - True, totally agree from the architectural RM perspective that
>the RM should be implementer agnostic.  But in reality, we must keep in
>mind that a SOA in a large company/enterprise is like apples and oranges
>with the SOA on my home network in the context of the network and
>systems 'architecture' that is necessary to support an SOA.  
>
>I think, however, this distinction is covered in the glossary by
>defining SOA as a 'software' architecture.  When you do that, you scope
>down SOA in the context of a large enterprise significantly.
>
>TM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] 
>Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:15 PM
>To: Chiusano Joseph
>Cc: Olson, Chandra S; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Thoughts on document title
>
>If it is in alignment with the definition in my email, then we have to
>change the glossary.  SOA as a RM should probably not be specifically
>tied to a certain class of implementors such as enterprises or only
>large companies.
>
>Duane
>
>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Duane,
>> 
>>I can clarify: By saying "if we buy into the fact that SOA is a type 
>>of Enterprise Architecture," I was referring to the definition of SOA 
>>at the end of our current draft, which states that SOA is a type of 
>>Enterprise Architecture.
>> 
>>FWIW, my definition of EA in line with what you present below. Hope 
>>that helps.
>>Joe
>> 
>>
>>Joseph Chiusano
>>
>>Booz Allen Hamilton
>>
>>Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com 
>><https://webmail.bah.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.boozalle
>>n.com/>
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>--
>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>Sent: Fri 5/6/2005 1:01 PM
>>To: Chiusano Joseph
>>Cc: Olson, Chandra S; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Thoughts on document title
>>
>>I am intrigued by the premise of enterprise architecture.  My 
>>definition of EA is one of area of applicability, not any particular 
>>style of architecture such as mainframe, client server, etc.  What is 
>>your definition of EA?
>>
>>Duane
>>
>>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>By this I mean that, if we buy into the fact that SOA is a type of 
>>>Enterprise Architecture,
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>***********
>>Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - 
>>http://www.adobe.com Chair - OASIS Service Oriented Architecture 
>>Reference Model Technical Committee - 
>>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=soa-rm
>>Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/ 
>>Adobe Enterprise Developer Resources  - 
>>http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/developer/main.html
>>***********
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>***********
>Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
>Chair - OASIS Service Oriented Architecture Reference Model Technical
>Committee -
>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=soa-rm
>Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/
>Adobe Enterprise Developer Resources  -
>http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/developer/main.html
>***********
>
>  
>

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Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
Chair - OASIS Service Oriented Architecture Reference Model Technical Committee - 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=soa-rm
Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/
Adobe Enterprise Developer Resources  - http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/developer/main.html
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