Re: [soa-rm] Identity (Was RE: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece:"Managing an XML Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices")

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

I really think that this does not belong as a operational component 
of SOA, but does need to be referenced as a concept without which 
very little will get done moving forward. However, I don't think it 
is in scope for the RM. For an RA, yes.

Ciao,
Rex

At 8:51 PM -0400 5/9/05, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>Is it true that all future s-o architectures will require identity?  
>Can we make that statement?  Do we want to make that statement?
>
>-Matt
>On 9-May-05, at 8:48 PM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>
>>Just wanted to voice my support for incorporating the abstract concept
>>of identity in our RM. I also note that this abstract concept can be
>>mapped to multiple concrete concepts, such as Liberty Federated
>>Identity, SAML tokens, etc. (getting the hang of this RM stuff!)
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>Joseph Chiusano
>>Booz Allen Hamilton
>>Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>>Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:36 AM
>>>Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML
>>>Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices"
>>>
>>>Sally:
>>>
>>>Good catch.  Ajay is a voting member of this group and I am
>>>sure he can submit them to the member submissions area.
>>>
>>>While we didn't take on the gist of the work due to the fact
>>>it was very concrete, the abstract concept of identity is
>>>probably at least worth a discussion at some point.  Assuming
>>>that SOA is a set of patterns implementable across multiple,
>>>unknown environments, there is probably a section in the
>>>service description that should be able to make some sort of
>>>identity declaration and/or present credentials.
>>>
>>>If anyone wants to get into this now, perhaps we should
>>>rename the thread to "Identity".
>>>
>>>Duane
>>>
>>>Sally St. Amand wrote:
>>>
>>>>Having just read this blog I need to ask if the "identity"
>>>>presentation (made at the F2F) you spoke of on Wed's call
>>>>
>>>related to
>>>
>>>>this same point? I was not at the F2F. Did the presenter provide a
>>>>copy of the slides?
>>>>
>>>>John Harby <jharby@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     This is an excellent blog entry from Phil:
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00096.html
>>>>
>>>>     On 5/6/05, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forwarding a good recent SOA piece[1] for those interested in
>>>>>
>>>>     reading it.
>>>>
>>>>>Covers the notion of an integrated data model as a
>>>>>
>>>foundational
>>>
>>>>     concept;
>>>>
>>>>>also presents a 6-layer approach to SOA (about mid-article).
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>[1] http://www.tdan.com/i032ht02.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Joseph Chiusano
>>>>>
>>>>>Booz Allen Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>>Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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