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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Identity


Title: Re: [soa-rm] Identity
More potential security aspects:
 
- Policy (noting that this is already covered in our RM)
- Confidentiality
- Message-Level Security
- Cross-Domain Trust
 
Part of the question may be how much if this is specified in an RM, and how much in a Reference Architecture (RA)*
 
Joe
 
*sneaky attempt to get a response on last evening's posting on RM vs. RA ;)
 

Joseph Chiusano

Booz Allen Hamilton

Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com



From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent: Tue 5/10/2005 11:39 AM
To: SOA-RM
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Identity

The essentials are

authentication - I have confidence I know who you are
authorization - I know who you are and I am authorize to request things 
of you and/or you are authorized to requests things of me
integrity - other communications are not being tampered
non-repudiation - neither one of us could later say this exchange did 
not occur

Identity is a part of this but is not sufficient on its own.  Also, it 
is not one way because there is often a need for reciprocity.

Ken

On May 10, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:

> What about from the Service providers point of view?  I definitely 
> think that identifying service consumers is not required in all cases, 
> however service providers have some form of implied identity.
>
> The expedia example however does raise the question of would you use 
> the site to book a trip if you could not identify it was Expedia's 
> site? If just before you were going to give them your credit card, it 
> jumped to a different domain name?   Identity is implied by the URL 
> resolution process, which in itself places a great deal of security 
> requirements on the entire DNS process.
>
> I am not thinking so much in terms of a service consumer as I am the 
> service provider.  Ajay made the point in his presentation that it 
> would be mandatory to be able to ascertain to some degree that the 
> service you are going to use is the one you want to use.
>
> I would at least like to mention it in the RM as an aspect (perhaps 
> just in passing).  To me, the Service description is probably where a 
> service provider could make a statement of claim regarding their 
> identity and perhaps supply a token, even as simple as a URI, to 
> provide proof.
>
> anyone else?
>
> Duane
>
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