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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] [Please indicate if you believe pulse check would be valuable] RE: [soa-rm] Service-Orientation, SOA, RM vs. RA, etc.: Suggestion To Bring Us Closer Together
I would
like the mail to list the issues (“these” is not clear). We had tons of email
today and it is hard to catch up. It will be nice if you can resend the mail
specifying the issues Thanks, /Prasanta -----Original
Message----- Thanks
Matt. TC
members: If you believe that a "pulse check" to see where we
collectively stand on these fundamental issues would be valuable (i.e. is our
current RM depicting SOA or is it depicting service orientation, what is SOA,
etc.) please indicate this asap. Please note that this is not asking what is
your view, but would a quick pulse check to get the current overall TC view be
valuable to our process moving forward. To make
it easy: You can "reply all" to this e-mail with a simply "Yes"
(a pulse check would be valuable) or "No" (a pulse check would not be
valuable). Or even Y or N, to save typing effort. ;) Silence
will indicate indifference. Thanks! Joe Joseph
Chiusano Booz
Allen Hamilton Visit
us online@ http://www.boozallen.com From: Matthew MacKenzie
[mailto:mattm@adobe.com] Joe, This can play
out in one of two ways: 1)
Overwhelming interest by TC members on the email list makes it obvious that
discussion is required immediately. I've not seen that yet. Could
happen today. If I see that, I think I can put up an informal poll
because it would be obvious that many folks think we need a "pulse
check". 2) Your
agenda request is noted by Duane when he gets this message, and if (1) doesn't
somehow resolve the issue, it can be resolved at the next meeting. The
issue probably shouldn't be about the poll, the issue in this case should
probably be the subject of the poll. -Matt On 20-May-05,
at 9:05 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
Thanks
Matt - whom do I see to get this idea on the next meeting agenda? Or if it is
easier, I would like to please make the request now that whoever creates the
next agenda includes this idea. Clarification:
Would the vote ask whether or not this "pulse check" should be done?
Or would the pulse check itself act as the vote? I am fine either way -
just want to follow our procedures. If we do the pulse check then as a TC
member, I accept, honor, and respect the results whatever they may be. It's just
the right now when I am asked about what this TC is developing, all I can say
is "we are not sure" because we do not have consensus on what SOA is,
what a reference model is, etc. At least with this mechanism I will be able to
say "our consensus is that SOA is X", and "our consensus is that
a reference model is Y", etc. Not
worried about heckling - after all, I used to do a comedy show every Sat. night
through the mid-to-late 80s with Jay Mohr. One of us used to get heckled
(although my "Newark, Newark" song parody used to get good responses
- sometimes;) Joe (An
Italian-American who watches C-SPAN instead of Friends after work) Kind
Regards, Joseph
Chiusano Booz
Allen Hamilton Visit
us online@ http://www.boozallen.com From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com] Joe, 1. Get your
idea on the next meeting agenda. 2. Attend
said meeting. 3. Bring
forward a motion, and ask for a eligible person to second it. 4. It will be
put to vote. Parliamentary
process is wonderful, but you have to expect lots of heckling and disagreement. -Matt (A
Canadian who watches C-SPAN instead of Friends after work) On 20-May-05,
at 6:51 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
This is the TC process at work. Can we please give it a
chance? Please clarify why you believe that a TC member asking that we
poll the TC informally to gain clarification on issues that are fundamental to
the TC's mission is outside of the normal TC process. Joe From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] The
current draft is a work in progress and we are actively editing it |
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