RE: [soa-rm] A new approach

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I agree that there is discontinuity
with respect to the definitions of the core concepts, which is why I
mentioned that we were in the midst of your step 4 (not your step 5, 6,
7, or greater). I was trying to make that very point.

IMO, the core concepts are still under discussion (and should be, given
that just finished our comment round) as we construct our service
orientation RM, which will provide the foundation for our subsequent SOA
RM.

Joe

Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca 
> [mailto:McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 AM
> To: Chiusano Joseph; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [soa-rm] A new approach
> 
> I would say you are partially correct Joe. I still sense some 
> discontinuity with respect to definitions of the core concepts.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com] 
> Sent:	June 2, 2005 10:37 AM
> To:	soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject:	RE: [soa-rm] A new approach
> 
> I believe we're already effectively doing that, and that 
> we're in the midst of your step 4.
> 
> Not to dwell on the past, but we could have taken the 
> approach from the very beginning of building something 
> incrementally toward SOA, rather than constructing something 
> quickly and then having to go back and forth on whether or 
> not it was really SOA. I think this may have been a much more 
> effective "plan up front" process.
> 
> But somehow we wound up at the same place anyway - so it all 
> worked out.
> Plus we had the opportunity to bring some key issues to the 
> surface in the meantime. So perhaps the approach we used was 
> really the best afterall.
> 
> And here we are, moving forward.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Joseph Chiusano
> Booz Allen Hamilton
> Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca
> > [mailto:McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:32 AM
> > To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: [soa-rm] A new approach
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I agree with Sally's email completely.
> > 
> > I was thinking of a slightly different approach to the consensus 
> > problem.
> > 
> > Why can we not start with a single concept like service and 
> add more 
> > concepts as we progress with consensus being reached on a continual 
> > basis.
> > 
> > 1. Service
> > 2. Service + Service Description
> > 3. Service + Service Description + relationships between them 4. 
> > Service + Service Description + relationships between them
> > + policy 5. ...
> > 
> > 
> > Comments?
> > 
> > Wes
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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