RE: [soa-rm] New Name of Current Spec (Was RE: [soa-rm] Groups - SOA RM Meeting Minutes June 01, 2005 (Meeting Minutes June 01, 2005[1].doc) uploaded)

["Metz Rebekah" <metz_rebekah@bah.com>]

Duane - 

My comments on the proposed ballots are inline:
 
> **********************
> Ballot A
> 
> Select one:
> 
>  [choice] We will keep our work focused on a Reference Model for SOA
and
> in one document
>  [choice] We will split our SOA reference model into two documents.
> 
> Notes:  before a ballot is set up, we need to budget some time to
> discuss and have all views presented.  This does not mean that any
> content has to be excluded, it is merely a validation or rejection of
> our current approach.
> 
Although this ballot is good procedurally, it doesn't address the
accepted focus on the service oriented model vs. service oriented
architecture model.  

> Ballot B
> 
> Select one:
> 
>  [choice] A Service Consumer is not part of the core Reference model,
> yet we may elect to illustrate this in a non-normative manner to
> facilitate understanding of how to relate the concept back to the RM.
>  [choice] A service Consumer is a core part of the SOA-RM.
> 
> Notes: If we do opt to have a SC normatively in the RM, it opens up
> pandora's box.
> 
This is actually bridging between a service oriented model (a la 1
service in the current mind map graphic) and a SOA model which builds
upon the service oriented model.  Perhaps we could rephrase as such?

> Ballot C
> 
> It seems that the concept map done by Matt is probably a close
> approximation to our goals for figure 2-1.
> 
> Select one:
> 
>  [choice] I vote to use this as the core diagram in section 2-1
subject
> to possible change later.
>  [choice] I vote to use this as the core diagram with the following
> changes (voter to submit comments)
>  [choice] I do not like it and propose the use of the following
graphic
> instead (requires voter to submit a graphic)
> 
I unfortunately had to drop off the call about 10 minutes before
completion, but at the time it seemed discussion was focused on using
the mind-map to drive discussions on *concepts* that would then be
potentially represented in some other graphical manner.

rebekah

> **********************
> 
> I would encourage that we probably do not vote on the subject of POA
> since it is not binding upon any future POA TC.  I do support Joseph's
> notion that POA also probably needs a RM for it.  We should probably
> finish the SOA work first.
> 
> There is a requirement to answer item B before item C.
> 
> Do these polls make sense as written and does anyone object to them
> being placed into the ballot mechanism?
> 
> Last but not least, I saw that there is an editors meeting to be held
> before the next Conf Call.  Is there a time, place for that?
> 
> Duane
> 
> 
> 
> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> 
> >Just to clarify, based on our discussion at the end of today's call:
> >
> >Our current spec will be renamed to SO-RM (Service Orientation
Reference
> >Model), and another will follow called SOA-RM (Service-Oriented
> >Architecture Reference Model) which will extend the SO-RM spec.
> >
> >And perhaps after that (within our TC, or perhaps within a different
TC)
> >we can have a POA-RM (Process-Oriented Architecture Reference Model),
> >which will extend the SOA-RM spec.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >Joseph Chiusano
> >Booz Allen Hamilton
> >Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >>2005 (Meeting Minutes June 01, 2005[1].doc) uploaded
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