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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Service Consumer in RM or not?

I see no reason why what people are calling a SOA RM is not abstract enough 
for this definition.

I wish they never used the word architecture in SOA. Maybe we should do 
what SOAP 1.2 did and make the acronym the name.


At 12:20 PM 6/7/2005, Duane Nickull wrote:
>It is in our charter:
>"Reference Model - A reference model is an abstract framework for 
>understanding significant relationships among the entities of some 
>environment, and for the development of consistent standards or 
>specifications supporting that environment. A reference model is based on 
>a small number of unifying concepts and may be used as a basis for 
>education and explaining standards to a non-specialist. [1] A reference 
>model is not directly tied to any standards, technologies or other 
>concrete implementation details, but it does seek to provide a common 
>semantics that can be used unambiguously across and between different 
>This definition is a mixture of quotes from several top software architects.
>Michael Stiefel wrote:
>>"If we do vote to include the SC, we then have to open up the RM to 
>>everything else that follows which means that it won't be a RM, it will 
>>be architecture."
>>I have never seen satisfactory definitions for reference model and 
>>reference architecture to say what should be included in one as opposed 
>>to the other. Definitions are required, not analogies or examples.
>>I think this is another issue that is a subtext to a lot of our 
>>discussions that has to be settled.
>>It certainly is the subtext to the one document or two discussion. I got 
>>a sense at the last conference call, that having two documents was a way 
>>to finesse this issue without really dealing with it.

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