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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] FW: [ontolog-forum] Panel Discussion on Ontological implications of SOA - Thu 2005.06.30

Duane, Rex:
I think you guys are better placed to answer this, as I don't know them as


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] 
Sent: 24 June 2005 20:48
To: peter@justbrown.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] FW: [ontolog-forum] Panel Discussion on Ontological
implications of SOA - Thu 2005.06.30


Can one-time interlopers call in?  In any case, can you let us know if
anything interesting arises that we have not yet discussed?



At 03:41 AM 6/24/2005, Peter F Brown wrote:
>FYI,I don't know how many other TC members are in this forum except 
>Duane, Rex and myself but next week's call could be of great interest to
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net
>[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
>Sent: 24 June 2005 04:00
>To: [ontolog-forum]
>Subject: [ontolog-forum] Panel Discussion on Ontological implications 
>of SOA
>- Thu 2005.06.30
>Please note below, an abstract on our next Ontolog Technical Discussion
>Title: *Interoperability Concerns in the Growth of Service
>Sciences: Ontological Implications of SOA*
>Moderator: Professor William E. McCarthy - Michigan State Univ.
>Date: Thursday June 30, 2005
>Time: 10:30am~12:30pm PDT / 1:30~3:30pm PDT
>Format: Panel & Open Discussion over an augmented conference call
>From: McCarthy, William
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:25 PM
>To: '[ontolog-forum] '
>Subject: panel on Ontological implications of SOA
>Hi Peter et al.
>Here is my proposed summary of next week's panel on interoperability 
>concerns in the growth of service sciences.
>Topic: Interoperability Concerns in the Growth of Service
>         Sciences -- Ontological Implications of SOA
>Traditionally, trading partners -- both within and between firms - 
>trafficked in bundled tangible products like consumer goods or 
>partially assembled finished goods.  Many early e-commerce standards 
>assumed implicitly product-based exchanges.
>Increasingly however, the growth in exchange and bundling of
>*Services* in the US and in other economies has supplanted tangible 
>goods as the raison d'etre of international and domestic commerce.  
>Estimates of the percentage of the gross domestic product of the US due 
>to services (as opposed to goods) range as high as 80%.  This trend has 
>led to increased interest in services and the establishment of new research
centers like the
>proposed "Center for Services Sciences" at U.C. Berkeley.   A
>good of overview of such trends is the brief article by Henry
>In e-commerce, this growth in service provision has been mirrored by 
>the advent of Service-Oriented Architectures which support integration 
>and creation of composite solutions (bundles of
>services) from loosely-coupled components assembled both within an 
>enterprise (outputs from legacy applications) and outside of the 
>enterprise (typically XML-based Web services).
>Whether or not the integrated services originate from incompatible 
>operations inside the firm or from incompatible vendor interfaces from 
>outside the firms, semantic inconsistencies, redundancies, and 
>discrepancies make the vision of integrated services an ontological 
>problem.  The purpose of this panel is to explore the ontological 
>implications of service Sciences in general and of Service-Oriented 
>Architectures in particular.  We will start our Ontolog session with 
>some general comments from notable practitioners in the SOA and 
>ontology areas.  We will then open up the discussion to more general
comments and critiques.
>Please mark your calendars now. I'll have the wiki session page up 
>shortly with more details.  =ppy
>Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
>Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki:
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