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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service"
Somehow saying service *provides* capabilities misses the SOA motivation to provide an effective way to bring together the parts I need to solve a problem. Integration is often of disparate parts that exist for their own purposes. Service can help coordinate but the challenge is to make use of the tools/resources/capabilities that already exist, not to create new stovepipes. Saying the service provides all this is a tempting simplification but I fear it will trivialize the concepts most in need of clarification. Ken At 10:35 AM 8/4/2005, Chiusano Joseph wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:18 AM > > To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service" > > > > I'd still like to emphasize service as the access to > > capabilities for which there are extra-service motivations > > for their existence and requirements for use of the > > capabilities that must be navigated by the service. Thus, > > > > "A service is a mechanism to enable access to a set of > > capabilities, > >I would say that access control mechanisms enable such access, and that >the service *provides* the capabilities. Note: Use of "access control" >is too concrete for our RM - I stated it only to illustrate the point. > >Joe > >Joseph Chiusano >Booz Allen Hamilton >O: 703-902-6923 >C: 202-251-0731 >Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com > > > where the access is provided using a prescribed > > interface and is exercised consistent with constraints and > > policies as specified by the service description." > > > > Ken > > > > At 11:15 PM 8/3/2005, joe@pantella.net wrote: > > > > >Just trying to sort through this; some common themes that seem to be > > >acceptable: > > > > > >A service provides capabilities. > > >A service is accessible. (If this is true, then service cannot be a > > >verb.) A service has an interface. (If this is true, then a > > service has > > >a boundary.) A service interface is prescribed. (Then a > > service and its > > >interface are distinct, and the interface has associated rules. I'm > > >not sure this is true, the interface may describe the rules, > > but Im not > > >sure it has rules. In fact, I'm inclined to suggest that > > the interface > > >defines the rules for accessing the service. Which would lead me to > > >suggest that the service interface is more than a > > specification of the > > >data model, but also of the policies associated with the service.) A > > >service is a set of behaviors. (Not sure I'm on board with this, > > >something about behaviors doesn't sit well.) > > > > > >Given this, perhaps something like: > > > > > >"A service is a bounded set of capabilities that are > > accessible through > > >a prescribed interface." > > > > > > > > >-- JJP > > > > > >P.S. I think this definition might just be flexible enough > > to navigate > > >the service offer/contract discussion also. > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Schuldt, Ron L [mailto:ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com] > > >Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:32 PM > > >To: Frank McCabe; SOA-RM > > >Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service" > > > > > > > > >Frank, > > > > > >While I believe that the previously proposed definition is > > sufficient, > > >I offer the following as a compromise. Hopefully, the notion of > > >"capabilities" addresses your issue of needing to get things done. > > > > > >"A service is a set of behaviors to provide capabilities > > accessible via > > >a prescribed interface." > > > > > >Ron > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Frank McCabe [mailto:frank.mccabe@us.fujitsu.com] > > >Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:10 AM > > >To: SOA-RM > > >Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service" > > > > > > > > >I hesitate to spoil this party ... but I'm going to :) > > > > > >1. There is a distinction between action and result. (Just ask any > > >roboticist) Behaviour sounds a child misbehaving with no discernible > > >effect. Computer Scientists have a tendency to focus on the purely > > >technical aspects of their work: bytes shuffling around at random > > >within hopefully enormous memories. > > >2. Also, we have to bear in mind that nobody invests > > millions of $s (or > > >even 100's of them) in systems that contemplate their navels > > or have no > > >business payoff. I think that we have to directly address the reason > > >that services are deployed. > > >3. One of the movitating best practice aspects of SOAs is > > that clarity > > >and 'separation' between the providers of services and the > > consumers of > > >services leads to more scalable and robust architectures. > > > > > >All of the above is fuzzy language; but, at the same time, > > "A service > > >is a set of behaviors accessible via a prescribed interface." > > >sounds a lot like bureauspeak. > > > > > >I believe that there is strong consensus on the following > > >characteristics: > > >a. The concept of service is 'at the boundary' between service > > >providers and consumers. > > >b. The service is 'there' to get things done; but doesn't > > itself denote > > >the engine that performs the tasks. > > >c. There is a reason for using a service. > > >d. There is a lot of extra metalogical information about > > services that > > >make it possible for third parties to develop partners for services. > > > > > >I, for one, would prefer a strongly anglo-saxon phrasing of the > > >definition of service that speaks to these points. > > > > > >Frank > > >ti > > > > -- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------- > > / Ken > > Laskey > > \ > > | MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 | > > | 7515 Colshire Drive fax: > > 703-983-1379 | > > \ McLean VA 22102-7508 > > / > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / Ken Laskey \ | MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 | | 7515 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379 | \ McLean VA 22102-7508 / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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