RE: [soa-rm] [Fwd: I can't post to RM...]

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Welcome Steve (you're in for quite a ride on this TC; - just kidding)

First, I am getting a "Cannot open due to error" error when attempting
to open the PPT file - are others getting this as well? (no specific
error description)

Let's start with:

<Quote>
has to START with the concept of Service, where simply put a Service is
a definition of "what" an organisation (or project) does.
</Quote>

I would assert that this is *too* simple and broad a definition. It
would apply to a service-based organization (such as yours and mine),
but not necessarily other types of organizations. I also don't believe
that a service has to be associated with a single organization (except
perhaps that the service provider may be an organization, or individual
for that matter) or project.

<Quote>
Once the service architecture is in place the detailed definition of
services can then begin.
</Quote>

You have no way of knowing this since you're new to the TC, but we are
actually trying to define "service" before we move into the reference
architecture work (or at least be resonably close to having it defined)
- so it's the other way around. 

I appreciate your contributions, and look forward to seeing the PPT.

Joe

Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:34 PM
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> Subject: [soa-rm] [Fwd: I can't post to RM...]
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> Warning: Your file, Delivering SOA  Making IT understand the 
> business.ppt, was not scanned by InterScan MSS.
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> Duane
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	I can't post to RM...
> Date: 	Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:42:00 +0100
> From: 	Jones, Steve G <steve.g.jones@capgemini.com>
> To: 	Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>
> 
> 
> 
> So to add into the mix on Service definition I have the following
> 
> Adding my own service definitions into the mix
> 
> http://doi.ieeecomputersociety.org/10.1109/MS.2005.80
> 
> The importance piece for me isn't so much the service 
> definition (or the definition of service) but the mechanism 
> by which a service is discovered and defined. This HAS to be 
> top down, and has to START with the concept of Service, where 
> simply put a Service is a definition of "what" an 
> organisation (or project) does. Once the service architecture 
> is in place the detailed definition of services can then 
> begin. The PPT attached covers a bit more of the thinking, 
> speak in a few mins.
> 
> Steve
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