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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
First off, I want to say that I'm very disappointed that no one took advantage of my opening for a Keith Richard's joke from yesterday (I was expecting something like "Well, he's just a cardboard cutout anyway", or similar). What would Keith say about that? Who would understand anyway?:p Secondly, please see my comments below. Joe Joseph Chiusano Booz Allen Hamilton O: 703-902-6923 C: 202-251-0731 Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:32 PM > To: Robin Cover > Cc: SOA-RM > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available > > Robin, > > I have been putting off people who have been asking for an > early copy because I'm afraid of causing more confusion on > things that may still radically change. I think this is all a matter of professional choice - no one can be wrong. I've been circulating earlier versions to very large groups of people across Booz Allen, asking for their feedback (I'm about to send this latest version as well). But that works for me and my company, and may not be the best choice for others (I say that neutrally - no judgement here). > For example, > although I believe a lot of the thinking is consistent, the > description of "service" has gone through several > incarnations from different perspectives. I'd hate to finish > the RM and find people sending around Powerpoint with > descriptions from two versions back. Yes - and at the same time, people can keep in mind that this is a draft and therefore use their professional judgement on if/how to represent it. > As for the archives being public, I only wish someone would > read them in detail and summarize all the great things hidden > in 2500 email messages. Heck, I can't even remember half the > stuff I said. I'm on it - I'll have a summary Monday. Just kidding. Joe > I am certainly glad to have the publicity (I think we're > doing some really good work) and thanks for clarifying public > availability issue. > > Ken > > > At 02:29 PM 9/13/2005, Robin Cover wrote: > >On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Chiusano Joseph wrote: > > > > > My understanding is that all drafts are supposed to be publicly > > > available, per OASIS policy. But Duane and/or Jamie can > confirm for us. > > > >Indeed, Jamie Clark can confirm this, or one can inspect the > TC Process. > > > >Not just "all drafts". OASIS TC Process (2.8) "Visibility" > specifies: > > > >"All web pages, documents, ballot results and email archives > of all TCs > >and SCs shall be publicly visible." > > > >In other words, working in OASIS TCs means transparency, > openness, and > >visibility to the public. It's part of accountability and > auditability > >-- as opposed to some standards venues in which the public > cannot see > >what's being done, as it's being done in the back room, by the > >pay-for-play players: at OASIS, it is generally pay-to-play [modulo > >public feedback channels] but NOT pay-to-see. > > > >It's unfortunate [IMO] that the default setting on the Kavi > tool makes > >it so easy for people to forget to ensure that materials > uploaded into > >Kavi are accessible at a publicly-visible URI. What often gets > >published in email to the list is a URI like: > > > >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/soa-rm/download. > php/14353/ > >wd-soa-rm-08.pdf > > > >which the "public" cannot see unless the public-person knows how to > >rewrite the URI to: > > > >http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/14353/wd-so > a-rm-08.pd > >f > > > >Hope this helps, > > > >[completely unofficially] > > > >Robin Cover > >XML Cover Pages > >http://xml.coverpages.org/ > > > >PS Having noted Joe Chiusano's "-08, great job" and > remembering that I > >had made a public reference to the Semantion FERA-based SOA > Information > >Model, I wanted to ensure that the SO-RM TC's work was > adequately known > > > >... Semantion FERA-based SOA Information Model and its reference > >architecture -- "The main components of the FERA reference > architecture > >are: federates, interfaces, and SOA Federation. Each participant > >involved in the collaboration is called a federate. Federates can be > >systems or people..." > > > >http://xml.coverpages.org/soa.html#Semantion > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > Joseph Chiusano > > > Booz Allen Hamilton > > > O: 703-902-6923 > > > C: 202-251-0731 > > > Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:17 PM > > > > To: SOA-RM > > > > Subject: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available > > > > > > > > Someone sent me the following > > > > > > > > Reference Model for Service Oriented Architectures. > > > > by > > > > OASIS SOA Reference Model TC, Working Draft 08 > > > > > > > > This Service Oriented Architecture Reference Model is > an abstract > > > > framework for understanding significant entities and > relationships > > > > amongst them within a service-oriented environment, and for the > > > > development of consistent standards or specifications > supporting > > > > that environment. It is based on unifying concepts of > SOA and may > > > > be used by architects developing specific services oriented > > > > architectures or for education and explaining SOA. A reference > > > > model is not directly tied to any standards, > technologies or other > > > > concrete implementation details, but it does seek to provide a > > > > common semantics that can be used unambiguously across > and between > > > > different implementations. > > > > http://xml.coverpages.org/soa.html#SOA-RM-WD08 > > > > http://xml.coverpages.org/SOA-RM-WD08.pdf > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/soa-rm/ > > > > > > > > where the pdf link is our 08 draft. I was under the impression > > > > that we were not supposed to be handing out draft that were not > > > > intended for public review. Am I mistaken? > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------- > > > > / Ken > > > > Laskey > > > > \ > > > > | MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 | > > > > | 7515 Colshire Drive fax: > > > > 703-983-1379 | > > > > \ McLean VA 22102-7508 > > > > / > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------- > / Ken > Laskey > \ > | MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 | > | 7515 Colshire Drive fax: > 703-983-1379 | > \ McLean VA 22102-7508 > / > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------- > > > >
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