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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@justbrown.net]
Sent:
Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:03 AM
To: Matt MacKenzie; Duane Nickull;
'Brown, Al'; 'Ken Laskey'; 'SOA-RM'
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly
available
Importance: High
+ myself and Prasanta.
...and we should
be switching channels: there is an editors list for this reason. Let's keep the
channels of communication clean. Further stuff on the editors draft from the
proof reading team should go on the soarm-editors list.
MM: The editors SC does not include proof
readers. I'm not sure if a soa-rm member can post to the editors SC.
Further, I invited proof readers to send annotated PDFs to me to reduce clutter
and confusion.
I don't agree with you Matt on the
commenting: proof readers/editors checking typos, etc in-document is one thing;
having the whole TC be able to do that is going to make the process (and, yes,
we have one) of submitting and handling comments/issues a dog's breakfast of a
job if we're not careful...and I hate arguments before
breakfast
MM: I did not invite
the whole TC to do that. I invited the proof readers to do
that.
It's also going to send version
management screwy: let's please keep it
simple: there are now three versions
of 08 floating around and I have no idea what in-document editing is going to do
for managing references to issues by line number etc, so can we stop this in its
tracks before it gets out of hand. I would request that:
- Frank's latest
version submitted to Kavi be considered the editors'
working draft;
-
Matt's "unlocked version" be used only by the editors/proof-readers;
- and
that once that process is done (48 hours?), Matt releases an official
08 to
the whole list.
MM: You've basically just outlined the plan as I saw it...what was the controversy?
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
Sent: 15 September
2005 01:56
To: Duane Nickull; Brown, Al; Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE:
[soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Who is the proofreading team?
They are a set of volunteers who signed up for this task at or around the last
f2f. There are only a few of them, and that's all we really need.
These individuals include Michael Stiefel, Al Brown and ?... (I forget the
rest. You know who you are!)
Q&A
----
1. Q: I'm not
on the proofreading team. Should I wait to submit issues?
A: No.
Please submit your issues against 08, just don't submit grammar and spelling
issues. The proofreading team's goal is to cut down the obvious,
non-contentious stuff.
2. Q: Why is the proofreading team proofreading
during general TC review, instead of prior to? A: This has happened
because we, mostly me, were too busy to remember to do it the right way ;-) Uhh,
sorry :-)
3. Q: So I believe I am a proofreader. How do I make my
comments? A:
The attached document has been "reader enabled", which means
commenting features within Acrobat Reader software which are normally only
available to Acrobat Standard/Professional users will be enabled for this
document. Just use the commenting tools (notes, text replacement, strike
out, etc.), save the document with your comments, and...
4. Q: Who do I
send my commented document to? A: Send it to mattm@adobe, who will handle
whatever else needs to happen.
5. Q: Hey, this Adobe commenting / reader
enablement stuff is cool. Do you have server products that I can buy that
would allow me to do interesting things with those features? A: Yes, ask me for
details :-) Ok, that's an obvious plug, I hope you can forgive
me!
-Matt
Please use the Acrobat commenting features to
indicate text changes that are not substantial, e.g. grammar, spelling, voice
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_voice),
etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull
Sent:
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:28 PM
To: Matt MacKenzie; Brown, Al; Ken
Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly
available
Should the proof readers use the commenting template or just
use sticky notes?
Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:42 PM
To: Brown, Al; Ken Laskey;
SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Oops.
We forgot about the proof readers. Yes, if you guys can give a run through
looking for grammatical stuff and send comments directly to myself or Frank, we
will incorporate those changes and rev the draft outside of the issues
process.
-matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Brown, Al [mailto:abrown@filenet.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 5:12 PM
To: Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE:
[soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Hi. I have not checked out
this draft yet, so I apologize if this is already covered there. On this
draft, when will it enter the proof-reading phase? Do you still need
proof-readers? And lastly, when will we be able to open issues against
it?
Regards, -Al
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Laskey
[mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent:
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:09 PM
To: SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08
draft publicly available
Sorry for the fuss. I probably have
several people I should send copies to.
Ken
At 04:39 PM 9/13/2005,
Duane Nickull wrote:
>Oui Monsieur!
>
>It is written that it
is an editors draft. Actual mileage may
vary.
>
>Duane
>
>-----Original
Message-----
>From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
>Sent:
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:53 AM
>To: SOA-RM
>Subject: RE:
[soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
>
>My understanding is that all
drafts are supposed to be publicly
>available, per OASIS policy. But Duane
and/or Jamie can confirm for us.
>
>Joe
>
>Joseph
Chiusano
>Booz Allen Hamilton
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
> > Sent:
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:17 PM
> > To: SOA-RM
> >
Subject: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
> >
> > Someone
sent me the following
> >
> > Reference Model for Service
Oriented Architectures.
> > by
> > OASIS SOA Reference Model
TC, Working Draft 08
> >
> > This Service Oriented
Architecture Reference Model is an abstract
> > framework for
understanding significant entities and relationships
> > amongst them
within a service-oriented environment, and for the
> > development of
consistent standards or specifications supporting
> > that environment.
It is based on unifying concepts of SOA and may be
> > used by
architects developing specific services oriented
> > architectures or
for education and explaining SOA. A reference model
> > is not
directly tied to any standards, technologies or other
> > concrete
implementation details, but it does seek to provide a
> > common
semantics that can be used unambiguously across and between
> >
different implementations.
> > http://xml.coverpages.org/soa.html#SOA-RM-WD08
>
> http://xml.coverpages.org/SOA-RM-WD08.pdf
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/soa-rm/
>
>
> > where the pdf link is our 08 draft. I was under the
impression that
> > we were not supposed to be handing out draft
that were not intended
> > for public review. Am I
mistaken?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --
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