My son has transferred his cold/flu to me …
and it’s bad … so I can’t do a proof-read in the next 2-3
days.
Please excuse me this time.
Thanks,
/Prasanta
From: Matt MacKenzie
[mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005
5:48 AM
To: peter@justbrown.net;
Duane Nickull; Brown, Al; Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft
publicly available
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@justbrown.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:03 AM
To: Matt MacKenzie; Duane Nickull; 'Brown, Al'; 'Ken Laskey'; 'SOA-RM'
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Importance: High
+ myself and Prasanta.
...and we should be switching channels: there is an editors list for this
reason. Let's keep the channels of communication clean. Further stuff on the
editors draft from the proof reading team should go on the soarm-editors list.
MM: The editors SC does
not include proof readers. I'm not sure if a soa-rm member can post to
the editors SC. Further, I invited proof readers to send annotated PDFs
to me to reduce clutter and confusion.
I don't agree with you Matt on the commenting: proof readers/editors checking
typos, etc in-document is one thing; having the whole TC be able to do that is
going to make the process (and, yes, we have one) of submitting and handling comments/issues
a dog's breakfast of a job if we're not careful...and I hate arguments before
breakfast
MM: I did not invite the
whole TC to do that. I invited the proof readers to do that.
It's also going to send version management screwy: let's please keep it
simple: there are now three versions of 08 floating around and I have no idea
what in-document editing is going to do for managing references to issues by
line number etc, so can we stop this in its tracks before it gets out of hand.
I would request that:
- Frank's latest version submitted to Kavi be considered the editors'
working draft;
- Matt's "unlocked version" be used only by the
editors/proof-readers;
- and that once that process is done (48 hours?), Matt releases an official
08 to the whole list.
MM: You've basically just outlined the plan as I
saw it...what was the controversy?
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
Sent: 15 September 2005 01:56
To: Duane Nickull; Brown, Al; Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Who is the proofreading team? They are a set of volunteers who signed up
for this task at or around the last f2f. There are only a few of them,
and that's all we really need. These individuals include Michael Stiefel,
Al Brown and ?... (I forget the rest. You know who you are!)
Q&A
----
1. Q: I'm not on the proofreading team. Should I wait to submit issues?
A: No. Please submit your issues against 08, just don't submit grammar
and spelling issues. The proofreading team's goal is to cut down the
obvious, non-contentious stuff.
2. Q: Why is the proofreading team proofreading during general TC review,
instead of prior to? A: This has happened because we, mostly me, were too
busy to remember to do it the right way ;-) Uhh, sorry :-)
3. Q: So I believe I am a proofreader. How do I make my comments? A:
The attached document has been "reader enabled", which means
commenting features within Acrobat Reader software which are normally only
available to Acrobat Standard/Professional users will be enabled for this
document. Just use the commenting tools (notes, text replacement, strike
out, etc.), save the document with your comments, and...
4. Q: Who do I send my commented document to? A: Send it to mattm@adobe, who
will handle whatever else needs to happen.
5. Q: Hey, this Adobe commenting / reader enablement stuff is cool. Do
you have server products that I can buy that would allow me to do interesting
things with those features? A: Yes, ask me for details :-) Ok, that's an
obvious plug, I hope you can forgive me!
-Matt
Please use the Acrobat commenting features to indicate text changes that are
not substantial, e.g. grammar, spelling, voice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_voice),
etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:28 PM
To: Matt MacKenzie; Brown, Al; Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Should the proof readers use the commenting template or just use sticky notes?
Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:42 PM
To: Brown, Al; Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Oops. We forgot about the proof readers. Yes, if you guys can give
a run through looking for grammatical stuff and send comments directly to
myself or Frank, we will incorporate those changes and rev the draft outside of
the issues process.
-matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Brown, Al [mailto:abrown@filenet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 5:12 PM
To: Ken Laskey; SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Hi. I have not checked out this draft yet, so I apologize if this is
already covered there. On this draft, when will it enter the
proof-reading phase? Do you still need proof-readers? And lastly, when
will we be able to open issues against it?
Regards, -Al
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:09 PM
To: SOA-RM
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
Sorry for the fuss. I probably have several people I should send copies
to.
Ken
At 04:39 PM 9/13/2005, Duane Nickull wrote:
>Oui Monsieur!
>
>It is written that it is an editors draft. Actual mileage may vary.
>
>Duane
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:53 AM
>To: SOA-RM
>Subject: RE: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
>
>My understanding is that all drafts are supposed to be publicly
>available, per OASIS policy. But Duane and/or Jamie can confirm for us.
>
>Joe
>
>Joseph Chiusano
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:17 PM
> > To: SOA-RM
> > Subject: [soa-rm] 08 draft publicly available
> >
> > Someone sent me the following
> >
> > Reference Model for Service Oriented Architectures.
> > by
> > OASIS SOA Reference Model TC, Working Draft 08
> >
> > This Service Oriented Architecture Reference Model is an abstract
> > framework for understanding significant entities and relationships
> > amongst them within a service-oriented environment, and for the
> > development of consistent standards or specifications supporting
> > that environment. It is based on unifying concepts of SOA and may be
> > used by architects developing specific services oriented
> > architectures or for education and explaining SOA. A reference model
> > is not directly tied to any standards, technologies or other
> > concrete implementation details, but it does seek to provide a
> > common semantics that can be used unambiguously across and between
> > different implementations.
> > http://xml.coverpages.org/soa.html#SOA-RM-WD08
> > http://xml.coverpages.org/SOA-RM-WD08.pdf
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/soa-rm/
> >
> > where the pdf link is our 08 draft. I was under the impression
that
> > we were not supposed to be handing out draft that were not intended
> > for public review. Am I mistaken?
> >
> > Ken
> >
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