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Subject: FW: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM


Apparently Dan's message got bounced off the list, so here is the mail to
which some of us replied but which never reached the whole list originally

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: marchadr@wellsfargo.com [mailto:marchadr@wellsfargo.com] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 01:34
To: dnickull@adobe.com; steve.g.jones@capgemini.com; ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com;
mattm@adobe.com; marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM


Here is another cut more puzzle pieceish




-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:58 PM
To: Jones, Steve G; Schuldt, Ron L; Matt MacKenzie; marchadr@wellsfargo.com;
peter@justbrown.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM


LOL - I love Google image search.

The following one I found on google image search for "SOA"
http://www.breakmyface.com/images/soa.jpg

It is even more ironic given the back of the guys shirt says "No policy".  I
guess he thinks that is out of scope for the RM or the 'mosh' pit.  Maybe we
should form a band too? 

This one seems to cast a group of religious folks trying to Close SOA.
http://www.cpt.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=SOA&id=CPTers_pl
ace_crosses_on_military_gate  Is SOA truly evil?  Don't answer - that is a
trick question.  We are abstract and the RM may be used equally for both
good and evil purposes.

However:

This one gets my vote:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/crupi/SOA%20Triangle.jpg

I like the use of the peace sign in the middle.  I guess it is implying SOA
brings about harmony, zen and an altruistic/benevolent society. Kind of the
anti-punk SOA message depicted on the first picture.

Duane



-----Original Message-----
From: Jones, Steve G [mailto:steve.g.jones@capgemini.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:21 PM
To: Jones, Steve G; Schuldt, Ron L; Matt MacKenzie; marchadr@wellsfargo.com;
peter@justbrown.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM


There doesn't appear to be an SOA icon anywhere yet...

SOA on Google gives some "interesting" results
http://images.google.com/images?q=SOA&hl=en

Ummm...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones, Steve G [mailto:steve.g.jones@capgemini.com]
> Sent: 15 November 2005 21:51
> To: Schuldt, Ron L; Matt MacKenzie; marchadr@wellsfargo.com;
> peter@justbrown.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
>

>

> Gets my vote, icons are much more effective memes than complex picture
> (coffee cup = Java, Bio-hazard sign, that dali-esque Window =
Windows).
>

> It might be worth trying to create a standard "SOA" picture that could
be
> in
> future used by SOA Blueprints, ebSOA etc with the RM being a stamp
mark or
> just text (e.g. http://www.jcp.org and the member sample at the
bottom).
> Having an image re-used elsewhere would help drive home the message.
>

> Trouble is that simple icons are very hard to create, or is SOA just 3
> jigsaw pieces? Does anyone have that already?
>

> Steve
>

>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Schuldt, Ron L [mailto:ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com]
> > Sent: 15 November 2005 21:44
> > To: Matt MacKenzie; marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
soa-
> > rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> > I would suggest an icon that is less controversial - perhaps a set
of
> > unassembled puzzle pieces for the RM and an assembled set of puzzle
> > pieces for the conformance mark.
> >
>

> > Ron
> >
>

> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:06 PM
> > To: Schuldt, Ron L; marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
> > soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> >
>

> > So you think MSFT will object to anything that contains a depiction
of
> > an apple?
> >
>

> > The Apple mark is very distinctive.
> >
>

> > -matt
> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Schuldt, Ron L [mailto:ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:59 PM
> > To: Matt MacKenzie; marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
> > soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> > I understand, but one company is a member of OASIS and will get
their
> > opportunity to voice their opinion when the draft goes out for
public
> > review and comment.
> >
>

> > Ron
> >
>

> >
>

> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:39 PM
> > To: Schuldt, Ron L; marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
> > soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> >
>

> > Those companies do not participate in our group, so their rejections
> > have already been processed.
> >
>

> > -matt
> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Schuldt, Ron L [mailto:ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:24 PM
> > To: Matt MacKenzie; marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
> > soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> > While I personally like the design, I suspect that a company in
> > Cupertino will accept it while a company in Redmond will reject it.
> >
>

> > Ron
> >
>

> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:04 PM
> > To: marchadr@wellsfargo.com; peter@justbrown.net;
> > soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> >
>

> > Yeah, and I'm the snake.  Just eat the apple, ok?
> >
>

> > ;-)
> > -matt
> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: marchadr@wellsfargo.com [mailto:marchadr@wellsfargo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:57 PM
> > To: Matt MacKenzie; peter@justbrown.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> > What is SOA the forbidden fruit?
> >
>

> > - Dan
> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:19 AM
> > To: peter@justbrown.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> >
>

> > Here is my shot at a logo and conformance mark...
> >
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@justbrown.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:20 AM
> > To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: [soa-rm] Image for SOA-RM
> >
>

> > I don't whether I've understood the semantics of this agenda item
(image
> > for RM) for tomorrow's meeting correctly or not, but to get the ball
> > rolling, I played around with a possible image (=graphic) for the
> > RM...see attached
> >
>

> > Two variants, an RM logo, and a conformance mark
> >
>

> >
>

> >
>

> > -------------
> > Peter F Brown
> > ---
> > Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
> > ---
> > Senior Expert
> > eGovernment - Legal, Organisational and International Issues
> > Austrian Federal Chancellery
> > ---
> > Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
> > ---
> > www.XMLbyStealth.net
> > http://public.xdi.com/=Peter.Brown
>

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