RE: [soa-rm] resolution for 513

["Peter F Brown" <peter@justbrown.net>]

Ken:
OK, but would change "items" to "concepts" maybe

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] 
Sent: 09 April 2006 02:10
To: Peter F Brown
Cc: 'Don Flinn'; 'Duane Nickull'; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] resolution for 513

Peter,

Nice wording but now your last sentence seems to contradict.  May I suggest

Being abstract, the Reference Model does not specify particular standards to
be used but in Figure 1 (line 61) we do illustrate the relationship of
standards to the Reference Model and other related items.

On Apr 5, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Peter F Brown wrote:


	Concur: I don't think the submitter is picking a fight on this, so I
would
	propose:

	"The document states that the Reference Model 'is an abstract
framework that
	enables the development of specific architectures using consistent
standards
	or specifications supporting that environment' (lines 9-11).
Standards are
	thus important in developing specific architectures and it is the
role of
	the Reference Model to provide the vocabulary and common
understanding of
	SOA that makes that possible. Nonetheless, we do illustrate the
relationship
	with standards in Figure 1 (line 61)"

	Peter

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Don Flinn [mailto:flinn@alum.mit.edu] 
	Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:37 PM
	To: Duane Nickull
	Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
	Subject: Re: [soa-rm] resolution for 513

	Duane 

	Doesn't your second sentence contradict your first sentence?

	I don't see your mail re: the concept maps.  Did you send it to the
	list?

	Don 

	On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 08:46 -0700, Duane Nickull wrote:

		Yes - standards are important but the RM is abstract and
hence not the

	place 

		to mention any specific standards.  We do show the
relationship between

	the RM 

		and specific standards, protocols and technologies in figure
1 - line 134.

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