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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!


I think Steve's question is what is our visibility at the Symposium.  Duane, you got excused from the panel you were on but are we making presentations or doing anything else?

Ken

On Apr 19, 2006, at 6:22 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:

I would definitely say this should happen.  There are a few sites that should naturally pick this up:

 

Webservices.org

OASIS

Looselycoupled.com

Any SOA based site.

 

Zachman?  EAI sites?

 

D

 

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Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT 
http://www.uncefact.org/
Chair - OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
Personal Blog - http://technoracle.blogspot.com/
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From: Jones, Steve G [mailto:steve.g.jones@capgemini.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:56 AM
To: Jones, Steve G; Duane Nickull; Jeffrey.A.Estefan@jpl.nasa.gov; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!

 

Link in case anyone cares is http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=182292

 

On a visibility question, and as someone trying to get funding to fly to the OASIS event, are we going to try and craft some specific marketing visibility elements at the F2F, this would certainly help me in my attempt to justify costs.

 

Steve

 

 


From: Jones, Steve G [mailto:steve.g.jones@capgemini.com]
Sent: 29 March 2006 19:14
To: Duane Nickull; Jeffrey.A.Estefan@jpl.nasa.gov; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!

 

On a related topic, I did a Microsoft Channel 9 thing at a conference last week and plugged the SOA RM quite a bit, oddly (or not) I’ve found that companies wanting to do SOA have tended to have a higher visibility of it than product companies.

 

One element that I still think we should be trying to do is putting at an all points press release from OASIS and the contributors to the group to help increase the google count for the RM and to raise its profile in the standard journals out there.

 

Steve

 

 


From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
Sent: 29 March 2006 18:57
To: Jeffrey.A.Estefan@jpl.nasa.gov; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!

 

One more thing – our messaging should include the fact that the RM can be mapped to many technology families, but we should emphasize WS-* as one for sure.

 

D

 

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Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT 
http://www.uncefact.org/
Chair - OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
Personal Blog - http://technoracle.blogspot.com/
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From: Jeffrey A Estefan [mailto:Jeffrey.A.Estefan@jpl.nasa.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:32 PM
To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!

 

Duane and the SOA-RM TC,

 

I'm attending the Ground System Architectures Workshop (GSAW) in L.A. this week and just this morning, I sat through a number of talks describing SOA in general and SOA in the context of ground system architectures for space data systems.  There was a great deal of discussion surrounding SOA and Web Services and unfortunately, not enough about distinguishing between the two (i.e., architectural style vs. technology).  The only references to OASIS were with respect to various WS-* specs.  I was even more disheartened to hear one speaker state explicitly during his talk (and captured as a bullet) that "no standards-based reference model exists for SOA."  Of course, I had to set the record straight during the Q&A following this speaker's presentation, and was promptly approached by many in the audience asking where they could find a copy of the SOA-RM Public Draft!

 

My point is that each and every speaker this morning used a different lexicon for defining SOA and none of them acknowledged or even made reference to the OASIS SOA-RM.  I think we need to do some better job marketing this work.  Do the OASIS By-Laws allow us to do this?  We [this body of work] needs much more visibility whether in various industry rags, user group forums, consortia, etc.   This is particularly true in the Government contexts (i.e., Military, Civil, and Intel space communities) that I witnessed today.

 

Would like to hear your thoughts on how we might address this problem.

 

Regards...

 

 - Jeff Estefan, JPL

 

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