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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Groups - Editor's draft of PR2 (soa-rm pr2 changes.pdf) uploaded


Frank,

I'm in Scotland (arrived last week) and can't even tell if I'm jet lagged.  The email was composed right after I got here so let me see if I can clarify.

At 04:55 PM 5/23/2006, Frank McCabe wrote:
Ken:
 I am a little confused about some of your comments:


On May 19, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Ken Laskey wrote:

- Issue 539: Proposed Disposition was modified when edits made and 
this led to some side effects

[snip]

  (3) some wording intended to improve consistency of information 
return as an aspect of real world effect was lost

do not know what you are referring to here

see Issues-9, cell M33 for PD.  Below are specifics.
(Note, don't believe any change intended in italics but I think some got lost in all the cut and paste.)

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[last 3 sentences of PD for PR1 lines 138-144 (edit by Peter because original may be easy to misread)]
We are careful to distinguish between public actions and private actions; private actions are inherently unknowable by other parties. On the other hand, public actions result in changes to the state, that state being shared between at least those involved in the current execution context and possibly shared by others. Real world effects are, then, couched in terms of changes to this shared state.

[PR2 164-167]
We are careful to distinguish between public actions and private actions; private actions are inherently unknowable by other parties. On the other hand, public actions result in changes to the state that is shared at least between those involved in the current execution context and possibly shared by others. Real world effects are, then, couched in terms of changes to this shared state.

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[PD for PR1 lines 464-496]
Real World Effect
There is always a particular purpose associated with interacting with a service. Conversely, a service provider (and consumer) often has a priori conditions that apply to its interactions.  The service consumer is trying to achieve some result by using the service, as is the service provider. At first sight, such a goal can often be expressed as “trying to get the service to do something”.  This is sometimes known as the "real world effect" of using a service. For example, an airline reservation service can be used to learn about available flights and seating and eventually to book travel – the desired real world effects being needed information and eventually a seat on the right flight.

As was discussed in Section 3.1, a real world effect can be the response to a request for information or the change in the state of some defined entities shared by the service participants. In this context, the shared state does not necessarily refer to specific state variables being saved in physical storage but rather represent shared information about the affected entities.  So in the example of the airline reservation, the shared state  - that there is a seat reserved on a particular flight - represents a common understanding between a future passenger and the airline. The details of actual state changes – whether on the part of the passenger (e.g. fund balances required to pay for the ticket) or of the airline (e.g. that a seat is sold for that flight)  - are not shared by the other.

[figure here]

Figure 1 Real World Effect and shared state

In addition, the internal actions that service providers and consumers perform as a result of participation in service interactions are, by definition, private and fundamentally unknowable. By unknowable we mean both that external parties cannot see others’ private actions and, furthermore, SHOULD NOT have explicit knowledge of them. Instead we focus on the set of facts shared by the parties. Actions by service providers and consumers lead to modifications of this shared state; and a real world effect of a service interaction is the accumulation of the changes visible through the shared state.

For example, when an airline has confirmed a seat for a passenger on a flight this represents a fact that both the airline and the passenger share – it is part of their shared state.  Thus the real world effect of booking the flight is the modification of this shared state – the creation of the fact of the booking.  Flowing from the shared facts, the passenger, the airline, and interested third parties may make inferences – for example, when the passenger arrives at the airport the airline confirms the booking and permits the passenger onto the airplane (subject of course to the passenger meeting the other requirements for traveling).

For the airline to know that the seat is confirmed it will likely require some private action to record the reservation. However, a passenger should not have to know the details of the airline internal procedures. Likewise, the airline does not know if the reservation was made by the passenger or someone acting on the passenger’s behalf.  The passenger’s and the airline’s understanding of the reservation is independent of how the airline maintains its records or who initiated the action.

[PR2 lines 517-561]
3.2.3 Real World Effect
There is always a particular purpose associated with interacting with a service. Conversely, a service provider (and consumer) often has a priori conditions that apply to its interactions. The service consumer is trying to achieve some result by using the service, as is the service provider. At first sight, such a goal can often be expressed as “trying to get the service to do something”. This is sometimes known as the real world effect of using a service. For example, an airline reservation service can be used in order to book travel – the desired real world effect being a seat on the right airplane.

[figure here]

Figure 1 Real World Effect and shared state

The internal actions that service providers and consumers perform as a result of participation in service interactions are, by definition, private and fundamentally unknowable. By unknowable we mean both that external parties cannot see others’ private actions and, furthermore, SHOULD NOT have explicit knowledge of them. Instead we focus on the set of facts shared by the parties – the shared state. Actions by service providers and consumers lead to modifications of this shared state; and the real world effect of a service interaction is the accumulation of the changes in the shared state.

There is a strong relationship between the shared state and the interactions that lead up to that state. The elements of the shared state SHOULD be inferable from that prior interaction together with other context as necessary. In particular, it is not required that the state be recorded; although without such recording it may become difficult to audit the interaction at a subsequent time.

For example, when an airline has confirmed a seat for a passenger on a flight this represents a fact that both the airline and the passenger share – it is part of their shared state. Thus the real world effect of booking the flight is the modification of this shared state – the creation of the fact of the booking. Flowing from the shared facts, the passenger, the airline, and interested third parties may make inferences – for example, when the passenger arrives at the airport the airline confirms the booking and permits the passenger onto the airplane (subject of course to the passenger meeting the other requirements for traveling). For the airline to know that the seat is confirmed it will likely require some private action to record the reservation. However, a passenger should not have to know the details of the airline internal procedures. The passenger’s understanding of the reservation is independent of how the airline maintains its records.
Likewise, the airline does not know if the reservation was made by the passenger or someone acting on the passenger’s behalf. The passenger’s and the airline’s understanding of the reservation is independent of how the airline maintains its records or who initiated the action.

As was discussed in Section
3.1 , a real world effect can be the response to a request for information or the change in the state of some defined entities shared by the service participants. In this context, the shared state does not necessarily refer to specific state variables being saved in physical storage but rather represent shared information about the affected entities. So in the example of the airline reservation, the shared state - that there is a seat reserved on a particular flight - represents a common understanding between a future passenger and the airline. The details of actual state changes – whether on the part of the passenger (e.g. fund balances required to pay for the ticket) or of the airline (e.g. that a seat is sold for that flight) - are not shared by the other.


  (4) other agreed clarifications were lost

Ditto

covered above

The discussion leading to PD was email thread concluding 4/26/2006 
with my accepting Peter's final changes.  This version is reflected 
in the spreadsheet.

covered above

- Issue 567 (or 534-4): resolution during May 3 call was not to 
change (now line 311).  Believe this also applies to line 595.

Totally confused here. I though that we agreed to remove the "one or 
more" reference

The minutes say, "Leave line 262 as is."  As noted, this also applies to change to line 595.



Other things noticed:
- Text added in the Abstract references Figure 1.  Should the 
Abstract directly reference rather than just summarize the body of 
the document?
This is probably weird; but it was agreed! I can take out the 
reference easily

I don't have notes that apply to this, so I'm not sure what said.  If others agree this is weird, I'd drop it.

- Section 1.5.1
  -- line 106: is there a reason Concept is capitalized?

Its in the diagram ..

  -- lines 110-112: more accurately, "The relationships between 
concepts in this document are not labeled;  the relationship is 
described in the immediately preceding or subsequent text."
fixed

  -- lines 113-117: all of our relationships have arrows, so is 
there any need for these lines?
leave it in, just in case?

  -- suggest combining Figures 2 and 4, deleting Figure 3 and 
saying, "Concept maps are used within this document to indicate 
concepts and relationships being discussed in the surrounding 
text.  There is no normative convention for interpreting concept 
maps.  As used in this document a line between two concepts 
represents a relationship, where the relationship is not labeled 
but rather is described in the text immediately preceding or 
following the figure.  The arrow on a line indicates an 
asymmetrical relationship, where the concept to which the arrow 
points (Concept 2 in Figure 2) can be interpreted as depending in 
some way on the concept from which the line originates (Concept 
1).  The text accompanying each graphic describes the nature of 
each relationship."

Agreed.

So this last would supersede the previous comments on the concept map description.  Right?


Now starting to work on all the responses I've got actions on.

Ken

At 04:35 AM 5/16/2006, frank.mccabe@us.fujitsu.com wrote:
Please review.
Figure 1 has an outstanding edit; otherwise all dispositions 

agreed to should be accounted for. -- Dr. Francis McCabe The 
document named Editor's draft of PR2 (soa-rm pr2 changes.pdf) has 
been submitted by Dr. Francis McCabe to the OASIS SOA Reference 
Model TC document repository. Document Description: This is an 
editor's draft of the second Public Review of the RM v. 1
This has markup to highlight the differences between this version 
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