Shh….that crazy bugger in N. Korea is probably looking for help actually building a
bomb. Apparently he may not have actually done it already J
From: Duane Nickull
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
2:04 PM
To: Matt
MacKenzie; Ken Laskey
Cc: Ellinger, Robert; peter@justbrown.net; McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca;
soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] SOA-RM
version 1.0 - says who?
The scary thing is that there is
probably enough brainpower on this TC alone to build a nuclear weapon if we
committed our minds to it.
D
On 10/17/06 11:01 AM, "Matt MacKenzie"
<mattm@adobe.com> wrote:
Show off ;-)
-matt
From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
1:37 PM
To: Duane Nickull
Cc: Ellinger, Robert; peter@justbrown.net; McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca;
soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] SOA-RM
version 1.0 - says who?
To continue the nuclear physics lesson, U238 (which makes up 99.3% of uranium)
is not used as fuel for either bombs or power reactors but rather the U235
isotope is the fissionable one. The enrichment process isolates the U235. In
power reactors, the enrichment is only to a few percent; for bombs, it is in
the 90s.
Ken
P.S. In an earlier life, I received a Masters in nuclear
engineering and did power reactor safety studies.
On Oct 17, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:
Actually - u238 becomes u239 when hit with an neutron. My great Uncle
Kenneth Mackenzie pioneered particle collisions while at UCLA and
while
working on the Manhattan
project. This can later become P239 which is far
superior for making bombs. Most western military contractors
prefer P239 to
U238. One issue with u238 is it is very stable and has a very
long half
life. Tactically, if you were to ever use nuclear weapons, you
don't want
the residue hanging around for the next 2 billion years. P239 is
much more
unstable making it reliable in a controlled, UCR event.
We can only hope that our revision was as simple. Just need to
find a way
to hit the SOA RM 1.0 with a neutron at hypersonic speed. That
would be
funny.
Duane
On 10/17/06 10:16 AM, "Ellinger, Robert"
<robert.ellinger@ngc.com> wrote:
Ya, they already know...that's why there was such a small
explosion in
the first test--they tried the working version of the v2 spec.
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@justbrown.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:02 PM
To: McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] SOA-RM version 1.0 - says who?
You mean there might be a v2 of U238? Do the North Koreans know?
P.
-----Original Message-----
From: McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca
[mailto:McGregor.Wesley@tbs-sct.gc.ca]
Sent: 17 October 2006 13:09
To: peter@justbrown.net;
soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] SOA-RM version 1.0 - says who?
Peter,
Knowledge increases daily. I think the Periodic Table of the
Elements
is a classic example of versioning....
I do not think you are a grumpy old %?&*. In fact I would say
just the
opposite.
Yes, thanks to Duane and to all of the editors!
Wes
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@justbrown.net]
Sent: October 16, 2006 5:26 PM
To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [soa-rm] SOA-RM version 1.0 - says who?
<rant RichterScale="2">
I don't want to be the killjoy at the party but did we
specifically ask
for our spec to be given a version, announced here as v1.0...?
I know that on my last post I must have come over as a grumpy old
bastard, but I just don't buy the idea that a reference model can
have a
version...In my view, it is or it is not a reference model,
period.
If there is a new "version", it is because some
fundamental aspect of
the SOA paradigm has changed: in which case it would no longer be
SOA....
I know that there are other reference models out there that have
versions too, but conceptually I still think the idea sucks!
</rant>
I look forward to "The Timeless Way of Building v2"
(with apologies to
Chris Alexander - he always said he couldn't understand IT
people's
reasoning about modelling and design).
A big thank you to our chair, for keeping this group, oddballs
like me
included, together for more than a year - well done!!
Peter
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