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Subject: Fwd: [soa-forum] Fw: Re: Draft Recommendations

From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:49:29 -0700

Title: Fwd: [soa-forum] Fw: Re: Draft Recommendations

Hi Folks,

I thought I would forward this with the URL for the 4th SOA for E-Government Conference http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SOAforEGovernment_2007_10_0102

The attached document outlines an approach being presented for categorizing SOA Standards by Use Cases. I posted my comments to the SOACoP list. The gist of my comments:

"My opinion is that REST is extremely limited and unlikely to prove out as the principle on which a workable web services SOA platform evolves. That doesn't mean that I don't think it is viable, just that it is limited and would quickly become tedious and cost-ineffective when ease of replication and ease of aggregation become the determinant factors."

Cheers,

Rex

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Please see below and provide comments to Bob Marcus directly in preparation for the 4th SOA for E-Government Conference.

Thanks, Brand

-----Forwarded by Brand Niemann/DC/USEPA/US on 06/28/2007 08:02AM -----

To: Brand Niemann/DC/USEPA/US@EPA
From: "Bob Marcus" <bobmarcus1@comcast.net>
Date: 06/27/2007 04:14PM
Subject: Re: Draft Recommendations

Brand:

I believe that it will be possible to present the content of the draft at the 4th SOA for E-Government Conference. While the draft is going through the approval process, I think it would be worthwhile to get input on the approach for creating recommendations. The attached document is an focused extract that can be widely circulated. I would be interested in any feedback from the SOA COP. Thanks.

FYI: I divide interoperability architectures into three categories (Intranet-Centric, Extranet-Centric, and Internet-Centric) based on collaboration patterns. This enables me to tailor the recommendations rather than having a single standard for every situation. (e.g. closer collaborations enable more tightly coupled standards.)

Bob Marcus

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----- Original Message -----

From: Niemann.Brand@epamail.epa.gov

To: Bob Marcus

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 5:32 PM

Subject: Re:Draft Recommendations

Bob, Thanks for sharing this with me and hopefully it will be approved in time for presentation at the 4th SOA for E-Government Conference.

Brand

-----"Bob Marcus" < bobmarcus1@comcast.net > wrote: -----

To: Brand Niemann/DC/USEPA/US@EPA
From: "Bob Marcus" < bobmarcus1@comcast.net >
Date: 06/18/2007 03:40PM
Subject: Draft Recommendations

Brand:

I created the attached draft report in response to a request for information on "Industry Standards for C2 Common Core Data Model & Framework" . I thought it would be valuable to get your input.

Please don't circulate since it is just a draft. Thanks

One of the key ideas in the report is that recommended standards should be tailored to specific use cases e.g. Intranet-Centric, Extranet-Centric, and Internet-Centric. For example, in general the report recommends RESTful services for Internet-Centric, SOAP-based Web Services for Extranet-Centric, and ESB middleware services for Intranet-Centric. I would be interested in your feedback on this approach. Thanks.

Bob Marcus

720-352-0784

FYI: I am proposing a Customer Engagement Process based on operational scenarios and interoperability use cases. See below. I think that it will also be useful in general enterprise consulting e.g. for REST vs.SOA decisions and data integration solutions.

The steps in this process include:

* Creation of Engagement Teams to interact with specific customers (e.g. to develop and manage deliverable planning and related activities)

* Documentation of customer operational scenarios and missions that will drive interoperability requirements and constraints for deliverables

* Mapping of operational scenarios to interoperability use cases that are the basis of the deliverable.

* Development of interoperability demonstrations to validate specific recommendations for standards in deliverables.

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Interoperability Use Cases.doc