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Hi Mary,
Thanks for jumping in.
Looking at my own reaction to supplying comments, once I decide I have something I want to say, I need to get that first comment in ASAP before I get otherwise diverted. If there are multiple steps to that first comment, you have a decent chance of losing me. If I've built some momentum in entering comments, I'm more likely to put up with annoyances.
Here's a suggestion: We accept comments with no registration. In response, we send a thank you with a note saying that in order to process the comment, we need you to respond this once accepting the IPR commitment. If we get the commitment (likely if all that is required is putting an X in the needed spot on returning), then we've got the commitment and can use the comment. Otherwise, nothing substantive from the comment will be used. If possible, I'd like to consider what the comment says, but if necessary, I would discard it.
Would that satisfy the lawyers?
Ken On May 30, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Mary McRae wrote: Hi everyone, I figure I might as well jump in before being formally asked. ;-) Know that the OASIS Board of Directors is extremely concerned about protecting the work of our technical committees and ensuring that IP is not contaminated in any way by external contributions. Is it the subscribing to the comment list that you view as onerous, or the having to agree to the terms and conditions? We previously had a comment form, but the spammers figured out how to attack it and many comment lists were inundated with nothing but junk. The comment form presented the terms and conditions along with language that by submitting the comment you were agreeing to the terms. Of course someone could have used a fake email address/name, so this really wasn’t much of a guarantee. So we switched to the email list, which by requiring subscription solves two problems: at least you know the email address is real since they must acknowledge the subscription, and that acknowledgement also contains the terms and conditions and their acceptance. We (OASIS staff) would like to (and will hopefully) implement another comment mechanism, but must still ensure that the contributor agrees to the IPR terms of the TC. As we begin to migrate some functionality away from Kavi (the OASIS Library and/or TC Public Pages will be the first changes you will start to see as 2008 draws to a close, we will take another look at how comments are/can be submitted. With regard to TC members, they should post their comments directly to the TC list; there is no need for them to agree to the IPR terms as this was already a condition of participation in the TC itself. Regards, Mary My thought is if we can raise it now and all the stars align, maybe we'll be able to get a less restricted review before we are final. Right now, it is most likely we'll be talking with ourselves. I assume as a SC we can at least get unrestricted comments from the entire TC membership. Correct? On May 30, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Francis McCabe wrote:
Even if we did, and even if the board agreed, it would be months before any such action could take effect. This is discounting the leaden footsteps of the lawyers. However, I can raise this to the TAB. On May 30, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Ken Laskey wrote: I've been thinking about the RA public review and while I appreciate the IPR concerns, I'm thinking we may want to ask the OASIS Board to consider a less onerous comment procedure. It is to our benefit and that of all doing work at OASIS to get the widest exposure and public input possible, and the current procedure would certainly discourage all (including OASIS non-TC members) but the most dedicated from providing comments. I really don't want to see major issues when we've done the work and come up for a final vote and there isn't preregistration for commenting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 7515 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379
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