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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] RE: last minute changes [was: [soa-rm] Groups - Event "SOA-RM TC meeting" modified]

Hi Folks,

Happy coming Year to you and your families!

I hope you know this but, just in case, here is an information from Marc Fiammante (IBM, a contributer into the NATO programmes):

<<ISO JTC 1.
ISO and IEC has validated the Opengroup OSIMM SOA Maturity Model as an international standard http://www.opengroup.org/soa/source-book/osimmv2/intro.htm .
At the initiative of China government ISO DAPS has been working on an SOA technical standard
http://www.iso.org/iso/standards_development/technical_committees/other_bodies/iso_technical_committee.htm?commid=601355 . When this standard is published it could become a defacto requirement in many RfPs particularly from public sector.>>

I was totally occupied by the work for the last 6 months but hope it would be easier next year. Pronlem is in that the time in the USA  collides with my mandatory meetings time in the UK. I need it to be at 12:30 EST or 17:30 in London to participate in the telecons.

Best regards,
- Michael Poulin
 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter F Brown

Sent: 11/21/12 04:26 PM

To: Ken Laskey

Subject: [soa-rm] RE: last minute changes [was: [soa-rm] Groups - Event "SOA-RM TC meeting" modified]

 

Ken,

 

 

“Repudiation” can be legitimate. These references are explicitly to “false repudiation” and should be kept

 

 

 

 

 

I’ve changed Rex’s affiliation and am uploading the correct version now, I’ll send out an amended motion with new URI

 

 

 

 

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November, 2012 07:39
To: Peter F Brown
Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: last minute changes [was: [soa-rm] Groups - Event "SOA-RM TC meeting" modified]
Importance: High

 

 

 

 

 

Peter,

 

 

 

 

 

Is it possible to change 

 

 

1. all (I believe there are four) occurrences of "false repudiation" to simply "repudiation"

 

 

2. Rex's affiliation to Net Centric Operations Industry Consortium (NCOIC)

 

 

 

 

 

and upload a zip with these changes so we have a "final" target for our motion?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

 

 

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From: "Smith, Kevin" <ksmith@fgm.com>

 

 

Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Groups - Event "SOA-RM TC meeting" modified

 

 

Date: November 21, 2012 10:12:34 AM EST

 

 

To: Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org>

 

 

 

 

 

Let's just change it to "repudiation" - that should cover it

Sent from my iPhone - 703.829.5386

 

 

 

 

 


On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:42 AM, "Ken Laskey" <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:

 

 

Kevin,

 

 

 

 

 

This seems to only affect a few lines -- 3038-3040 in the clean pdf.  Can you suggest an appropriate modification to those lines to cover the points you made below?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

 

 

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Dr. Kenneth Laskey
MITRE Corporation, M/S H305             phone: 703-983-7934
7515 Colshire Drive                             fax: 703-983-1379
McLean VA 22102-7508

 

 

 

 

 

On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Smith, Kevin wrote:

 

 


 

 

 

I agree with Rex.

 

 

 

 

 

The challenge is:

 

 

 

 

 

- I should be able to repudiate what I didn't do (this would be the truth.)

 

 

- I shouldn't be able to repudiate what I did do.. (this would be a lie)

 

 

 

 

 

So I think the section was trying to cover the second point.  But I think "repudiation" will suffice for now.

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:32 AM
To: Smith, Kevin; Kevin T. Smith
Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Fwd: [soa-rm] Groups - Event "SOA-RM TC meeting" modified
Importance: High

 

 

 

 

 

Kevin,

 

 

 

 

 

Can you please comment on this?  Is this a term in the trade, whether or not a double negative?  Does Rex have a point and this short be changed?

 

 

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

 

 

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Dr. Kenneth Laskey
MITRE Corporation, M/S H305             phone: 703-983-7934
7515 Colshire Drive                             fax: 703-983-1379
McLean VA 22102-7508

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Rex Brooks <rex.brooks@ncoic.org>

 

 

Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Groups - Event "SOA-RM TC meeting" modified

 

 

Date: November 20, 2012 10:33:19 PM EST

 

 

Reply-To: <rex.brooks@ncoic.org>

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry I didn't catch this before, but in Section 5.2.3.7 False repudiation:

I believe this is a double negative even if it is not the verb, e.g. "I didn't do nothing." but I think it should just be "Repudiation:" not False Repudiation, which would, in the double negative, actually be verification or something like it. This is also why "non-repudiation" is supposed to prevent repudiation.

I haven't found anything else yet.

Cheers,
Rex

On 11/19/2012 7:58 AM, Ken Laskey wrote:

 

 

Event Title: SOA-RM TC meeting

 

 

Date: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 11:30am to 01:00pm EST
Description

 

 

 

 

 

Phone number: 703-983-6338

 

 

ID: 762723 (spells soaraf)

 

 

 

 

 

THE REVISION TO THIS ANNOUNCEMENT MODIFIES THE FOLLOWING:

 

 

- THE LINK TO [1] HAS BEEN UPDATED TO A REVISED DOCUMENT

 

 

- A NEW ITEM 3 HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA

 

 

 

 

 

A public review for the SOA-RAF was completed 14 October 2012.  Since then, the submitted comments have been reviewed and adjudicated.  The resulting specification, along with the adjudication can be found at  [1]. 

 

 

 

 

 

The minutes from the 7 November 2012 SOA-RAF subcommittee meeting [2] document that "The SC discussed whether the changes made to the specification thus far are material and concluded that they were not."

 

 

 

 

 

The minutes [2] also document that "a motion to hold a meeting of the full SOA-RM TC on November 21, 2012 to deliver the recommendation and ask for their concurrence."  [i.e., accepting the conclusion that there are no material changes]

 

 

 

 

 

Therefore, the SOA-RM TC is requested to review the revised [1] and be prepared for the agenda: as presented below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Agenda

 

 

Agenda:

 

 

 

 

 

1. Discuss and consider the documents in [1] and determine whether to accept the SOA-RAF subcommittee recommendation that changes are non-material.

 

 

 

 

 

2. Plan for follow-on activities necessary to adopt a new Committee Specification.  If the above subcommittee recommendation is accepted, the material in [1] will form the basis of the proposal for the Committee Specification, requiring only a clean copy of the specification formats be prepared with any and all tracked changes accepted.  Additional nonmaterial changes may be proposed, accepted, and documented during the 21 November meeting. As appropriate, the TC will consider opening a TC member ballot as required by the TC Process, for a formal decision to adopt the document as a Committee Specification.  If the recommendation is not accepted, the TC will initiate actions, such as an additional review, needed to gain such adoption.

 

 

 

 

 

3. Discuss and, as appropriate, vote or intiate a ballot for submitting the SOA Reference Model to ISO/IEC JTC1 as a PAS submission.

 

 

 

 

 

4. Other business.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Owner: Dr. Ken Laskey
Group: OASIS SOA Reference Model TC
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