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Subject: RE: RE: dial-in info for SOA-RM 20150415

All of what you write below depends on how you define “document” and its ontological entailment and realism. However, enough philosophy for today!



Let us ignore document theory. The IAO ontology functions very well as object and process classes for specification of the range of software states. IAO is better metadata specification than Dublin Core.



From: Mike Poulin [mailto:mpoulin@usa.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:57 PM
To: Sweet Jr., William H; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: RE: dial-in info for SOA-RM 20150415



 I think a lot of developers will carry you on hands for making SW a document (with no machinery SW is not obliged to work anymore); they can now return to being paid for the number of writtent lines of code...


All this is shoking to me. I cannot imagine a business that would be sutisfied with just documents (without funds moving though some businesses documents like Government Bonds become implicit money). 


Are you trying to shift RM and RAF onto document (instead of service) basis? 


Question to all: do we want such shift? I am lost here.

- Michael 


Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 4:55 PM
From: "Sweet Jr., William H" <wsweet@mitre.org>
To: "Mike Poulin" <mpoulin@usa.com>, "Laskey, Ken" <klaskey@mitre.org>
Cc: "<rexb@starbourne.com>" <rexb@starbourne.com>, "Peter F Brown" <peter@peterfbrown.com>, "Ian Bailey" <ian@modelfutures.com>, "shaun Siddells" <siddells@gmail.com>, "Martin Smith" <bfc.mclean@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: dial-in info for SOA-RM 20150415



Not only are there lots of issues, this represents a paradigm shift in the understanding of software. I believe that once you have made the shift to seeing software as part of the larger Document Acts theory, seeing software similar to a document such as a voter registration card which confers “power”, implicit real world effect, you will no longer see software as mere machinery.




From: Mike Poulin [mailto:mpoulin@usa.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:19 AM
To: Laskey, Ken
Cc: <rexb@starbourne.com>; Peter F Brown; Ian Bailey; shaun Siddells; Sweet Jr., William H; Martin Smith
Subject: Re: dial-in info for SOA-RM 20150415


I plan to be in the meeting today.


Also, let me propose that everybody become familiar with William's proposal and my comments on them. There are more than one issue to discuss and it will take an extra time to explain them again (if not reading up-front).


- Michael


Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 11:14 PM
From: "Ken Laskey" <klaskey@mitre.org>
To: "<rexb@starbourne.com>" <rexb@starbourne.com>, "Peter F Brown" <peter@peterfbrown.com>, "Mike Poulin" <mpoulin@usa.com>, "Ian Bailey" <ian@modelfutures.com>, "shaun Siddells" <siddells@gmail.com>, "William H Sweet Jr." <wsweet@mitre.org>, "Martin Smith" <bfc.mclean@gmail.com>
Subject: dial-in info for SOA-RM 20150415

I am keeping the current time for this meeting and we can discuss future changes.


Date: 15 April 2015

Time: 1400-1530 ET (East Coast US)



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