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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] compact blurbs on microservices


Still need to get some clarity on reuse.  I am concerned that we’ll see benefits in the short term but end up with an unwieldy set of near duplicates when there is no time invested to discover if someone else has already solved your problem, especially when their solution will be better than yours.

To what extent is MS just packaging and reuse is you spin up a copy of my machine image so you get to use my solution while avoiding the remote networking overhead?  The challenge is for me to notify you when I change/update my image and then you staying in synch with me to the extent that updating is necessary and provides you value.

Ken
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On Nov 25, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Natale, Bob <RNATALE@mitre.org> wrote:

Hi Mike,
 
I was formulating a response to Ken’s query _on behalf of_ a hypothetical microservices evangelist … i.e., adopting the mindset of such a person … in that context, I believe that the definition I offered holds.
 
We can disparage it all we want, but if the hyperscale players continue to optimize for the packaging benefits of the microservices model along the Agile/DevOps movement, we might have to accept it and make the best of it … which certainly offers new opportunities for SOA and COS principles, designs, etc. IMHO.
 
Avanti,
BobN
 
From: Mike Poulin [mailto:mpoulin@usa.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:56 AM
To: Natale, Bob <RNATALE@mitre.org>
Cc: Laskey, Ken <klaskey@mitre.org>; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: RE: [soa-rm] compact blurbs on microservices
 
Wow, Bob!
if I do not use any - no one microservice, I do not have an application do I?
 
The statement "An application is a composition of one or more microservices and other implementation mechanisms that provides a coherent grouping of business functionality.”That’s quick n’ dirty... "- no, is not dirty, it is shi..y! (Pardon my French)
 
- Michael
 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 at 3:52 AM
From: "Natale, Bob" <RNATALE@mitre.org>
To: "Laskey, Ken" <klaskey@mitre.org>
Cc: "soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org" <soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] compact blurbs on microservices
Hi Ken,
 
To you original query: “My biggest problem is I have yet to see a good definition of “application”.  Is it just the user interface that calls microservices under the hood?” …
 
Taking the perspective of a microservices architecture evangelist, I’d answer “An application is a composition of one or more microservices and other implementation mechanisms that provides a coherent grouping of business functionality.”
 
That’s quick n’ dirty but conveys the sense as I understand (in the microservices context).
 
Avanti,
BobN
 
From: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Ken Laskey
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:42 PM
To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [soa-rm] compact blurbs on microservices
 
Came across this article
 
The first model is the microservices model. With this model, components are defined as independent microservices that any application can use. They also have stateless behavior so they can be replaced and scaled as needed. Additionally, they are independent of each other and of applications that use them, so deployment/redeployment of a microservice doesn't affect applications it serves.
 
and
 
But microservices might be the biggest revolution in componentization. A microservice is a logic component deployed in RESTful form, designed to be accessed through a URL. Microservices easily address issues of component dependencies and avalanches of redeployments due to small component changes because microservices are independent as long as the API call formats are maintained. Microservices won't change the modularity of JVM or provide an efficient way of managing remote-versus-local components, but they could significantly reduce the burden of component management for distributed components.
 
My biggest problem is I have yet to see a good definition of “application”.  Is it just the user interface that calls microservices under the hood?
 
Any favorite (attributable) definitions of application?
 
Ken 
 
 
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MITRE Corporation, M/S F510          phone: 703-983-7934
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