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Subject: RE: [tag-discuss] Re: Test case metadata is not in scope (was: Re: Reasons to wait...)


 I like David's description surrounding TAs. By the way, can I ask a
question about "test case metadata"? Does it mean by "test requirements"?

Best regards.

-Cho
KorBIT Leader


-----Original Message-----
From: david_marston@us.ibm.com [mailto:david_marston@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:57 AM
To: tag-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tag-discuss] Re: Test case metadata is not in scope (was: Re:
Reasons to wait...)

Jacques responded to my message that delineated three roles and whether they
are producers and consumers of TAs. To summarize:
I. People in the documentation (spec-writing) role would produce TAs.
II. People in the test-writing (and testing) roles would consume TAs.
III. People in the software/system development roles MAY consume TAs, if
there were tooling to do so.

JD>Are we talking of gathering all this in a kind of "memorandum of
understanding" document, authored by people on this list, that provides some
background to potential TC members, and that may be referred to by the
charter?

I wasn't thinking of that, but I see no problem if others want to.

Regarding Role I...
JD>Suggest to replace " documentation-type people" with "domain experts".
That certainly changes the connotation. I think the role is more about
communication skills than about domain expertise. I am suggesting that the
people who currently write our specs, which are very precise and intended to
be testable, would apply their documentation skills more deeply to write the
TAs.

Regarding Role II...
DM>>Some of them also use test case metadata, either in portable
>>standalone files (e.g., XQuery Test Suite) or managed by a tool such 
>>as Rational TestManager. These people are the ones who write test case 
>>metadata, and they are doing so without standards.
>
JD>do we mean: "These people are the ones who need test case metadata,
>and in the absence of standards they usually write their own."

I think some need it, but not necessarily all. When test cases are shared
across several test labs, as in the case of conformance testing for
OASIS/W3C/OMG/etc. specs, the need for test case metadata becomes much
stronger. Putting the test case data in XML promotes platform agility of the
test suite. The nature of the "need" depends on the tools and practices of
the particular test lab.

A subsidiary question is how many test labs need (or would use, at least)
pointers to TAs in their test case metadata. Once again, I think that
depends on tools.
...................David Marston

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