RE: [tag] Requirement: component like a tag but for 'namespace'

["Durand, Jacques R." <JDurand@us.fujitsu.com>]

Should we use another name than "@namespace" ? That could be confusing
with the actual namespace of the TAG markup, which will of course be
different.
How about "idspace" or the like?
-J

-----Original Message-----
From: stephen.green@systml.co.uk [mailto:stephen.green@systml.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:53 AM
To: tag@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tag] Requirement: component like a tag but for 'namespace'

This is what a TA with such a namespace might look like

<testAssertion id="TA-0001" enabled="true"  
namespace="urn:acme:small-widget:ta:1-0">
	<tatag name="conformanceProfile">Basic</tatag>
	<tatag name="name2">string value</tatag>
	<description>This is a sample TA for the specification statement
REQ-0001</description>
	<normsource>
		<reference>REQ-0001</reference>
		<quote>string</quote>
		<interpretation>string</interpretation>
	</normsource>
	<prescription level="mandatory"/>
	<target name="widget" exprlang="xpath2" id="relative XPath
expression">absolute XPath expression</target>
	<prerequisite>
		<general>some plain-text condition, subject to possible
stricter syntax</general>
		<precondition exprlang="extended-xpath2">(TA:1234='true'
and
TA:2355:relation='true') or (TA:4444='true' and [target
predicate])</precondition>
	</prerequisite>
	<predicate exprlang="xpath2">relative XPath
expression</predicate> </testAssertion>

Expressed as model it might look like this

TA_id: [namespace:urn:acme:small-widget:ta:1-0] TA-0001
TAG: name="conformanceProfile" value="Basic
TAG: name="name2" value="string value"
Description: This is a sample TA for the specification statement
REQ-0001 Normative Source: REQ-0001 ...


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Quoting stephen.green@systml.co.uk:

> Really the namespace is a property not of the target but of the TA (or

> a set of TAs). It could be represented as a prefix to the TA_Id of 
> each TA of a set of TAs - a namespace would then be declared somewhere

> and associated with the prefix.
>
> Example:
>
> Acme specify widgets for large and small widgets separately but the 
> TA_Id for a large widget TA might have be the same as one of the small

> widget TA_Ids: the Acme company has one research lab in San Jose in 
> charge of writing the large widget spec and a lab in Bristol, UK in 
> charge of the small widget spec and they work independently. The UK 
> lab gets assigned a urn for its namespaces which is 
> 'urn:acme-names:bristol' and the US one has 'urn:acme-names:sj-usa'. 
> Each lab writes its own TAs and they have a standard that they should 
> use their urns to create namespaces to assign to all TAs they write. 
> Then the combination of both TA_Id and namespace is used to keep the 
> ids unique and to act as a kind of stamp to show which lab created and

> maintains the respective TAs. Each TA contains both a TA_Id and 
> (separately for clarity and to help with referencing, etc) a 
> namespace. When the TA is referenced for a prerequisite then both the 
> TA_Id and the namespace are contained in the reference.
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Quoting "Durand, Jacques R." <JDurand@us.fujitsu.com>:
>
>> Tags will have names - we could have a set of predefined tag names, 
>> and one of them could be what you are looking for. Would that work?
>> Also if named "namespace" would that be only for use with XML
material?
>> We need to make the case this naming problem is a general enough 
>> issue that deserves a mention in the guidelines, independently from
XML.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stephen.green@systml.co.uk [mailto:stephen.green@systml.co.uk]
>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:54 AM
>> To: tag@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: [tag] Requirement: component like a tag but for 'namespace'
>>
>> Apologies it is such a late stage (and maybe too late for guidelines 
>> so maybe something for adjunct document):
>> I feel there is need for another component (optional but possibly
>> important) in a TA: something like a namespace to create a TA 
>> package. I suggest it is an upper level of grouping.
>> Rationale: when TAs are otherwise atomic and possibly self-contained,

>> there needs to be a way to associate TAs with a group, like tagging 
>> but a bit more authoritative. It is a special kind of tag which is 
>> the same in function as a namespace in XML/code and a package in 
>> modeling/code but as with XML namespaces it can confer authority in 
>> that the authors can reserve use of the namespace to their own work, 
>> say. Whether it would include a version id is a special discussion as

>> there may be special problems with this like those in XML where there

>> may be a need to add TAs and/or introduce a new version without 
>> having to use a new namespace. Maybe it is a type of tag particularly
relevant to a header.
>>
>> If it isn't to be added as a TA component, maybe it could be added as

>> metadata to the TA(s) - not to be confused with test metadata of
course.
>>
>> Again, apologies for the lateness.
>>
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