meeting Nov 14 minutes

[Jacques Durand <JDurand@us.fujitsu.com>]

 

Test Assertions Guidelines (TAG) TC Teleconference Meeting
Date: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 2 pm (PDT).


Logistics
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Host confcall: Fujitsu  
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Attendance and Quorum
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4/5 Voting Members attending satisfied the 3/5 quorum requirement.  This 
meeting counted toward voter eligibility. 
 
MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
 * Paul Rank (Oracle)
 * Jaques Durand, Chair (Fujitsu)
 * Frederick Boland (NIST)
 * Kevin Looney (Oracle)
 
MEMBERS ABSENT
   Dennis E. Hamilton, Secretary (Individual)
      

Agenda:
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1. Admin:
- minutes Oct 24
2. TA model is a standard
- do we want to do something about poor formatting of the standard (see the fonts mix-up in http://docs.oasis-open.org/tag/model/v1.0/os/testassertionsmodel-1.0-os.pdf, e.g. section 2.2, also weird indentation and lack of spacing)
- next steps

3. Evolving the TA guidelines and/or markup (?)
- Kevin issues on TA guidelines
- possible extensions of TA guidelines Com.Notes in the light of user feedback ? e.g. partially testable normative statements, negative testing.
- assuming we perceived demand for it: TA markup could be extended to other formats (JSON, YAML...)


Minutes:
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1. Admin:
- minutes Oct 24: approved.
2. TA model is a standard (poor formatting of the standard -  font mix-up in 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/tag/model/v1.0/os/testassertionsmodel-1.0-os.pdf, e.g. section 2.2, also weird indentation and lack of spacing)
Kevin moves that we ask TC admin and staff to fix this formatting issue on http://docs.oasis-open.org/tag/model/v1.0/os/testassertionsmodel-1.0-os.pdf
and its source doc, Paul R. seconds. Unanimous approval. Jacques will submit request to TC admin. 
- next steps: no decision until the full TC meets. 
- Jacques: TC members seem willing to keep meeting about 1/month, to have to take this into account for the amount of work to do next.


3. Evolving the TA guidelines and/or markup (?)
- Kevin issues on TA guidelines: priority for fixing this
- possible extensions of TA guidelines Com.Notes in the light of user feedback ? .
- Jacques describes the possible cases for extensions, e.g. partially testable normative statements, "negative" testing, 
rewording Normative Source in a testable way, case where the Normative Source addresses partially the original statement.
- Any extension of TA markup to other formats (JSON, YAML...) not perceived as high priority.


4. FUTURE MEETINGS

Average 1/month.
Tentative : Tuesday November 28, to be verified with other members.

Jacques Durand, on behalf of:
 - Dennis E. Hamilton
   TAG TC Secretary