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Subject: Re: [tax] FW: standard format for payroll tax tables

Talking about a couple different things, really. Let's talk about typical 
individual income taxes.

Check out pages 62- 74 (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf) - the 
guides to the amount of taxes that should be paid based on certain taxable 
incomes when filing individual tax returns. Similar tables used in many 
states, such as my home, NY (see pages 75-90 of 

Publication 505, Tax Withholding and Estimated Tax, is also an interesting 

Based on employee declarations about marital status and number of 
dependents/exemptions, the employer pulls out money from the salary in 
advance of the end of the year. There are tables and or formulas used for 
this as well.

The employee, when filling out his or her individual tax return, then 
substracts the amount already withheld, any other amounts, such as amounts 
paid as estimates of taxes to be due, to come up with the balance due.

There are sales tax tables, e.g. 
http://www.tax.state.va.us/web_pdfs/busForms/st_table_5percent.pdf also, 
and others using the same concept.

Can't speak much to the update mechanism - they announce the new tables, 
software developers work like made to get them into their software.

Here is ATO spin on same topic: 

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Andy Greener <andy@gid.co.uk> 
10/18/2004 04:44 PM

"Sylvia Webb" <swebb@gefeg.com>
Re: [tax] FW: standard format for payroll tax tables

It would be really helpful if someone from the US could explain what
these tax tables are exactly, and what the update mechanism is. Thanks!


At 11:44 am -0700 18/10/04, Sylvia Webb wrote:
Sylvia Webb

From: Tigers Mailing List [mailto:tigers@lists.taxadmin.org] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Lyon
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:13 AM
Subject: standard format for payroll tax tables
Interested, anyone?
Jonathan Lyon
A standard format for payroll tax tables really would be useful. I imagine 
this principally would require an agreement among the federal, state, 
local tax entities and payroll software vendors. While HR-XML would not 
take on this type of payroll tax table project, it might possibly be of 
interest to the TIGERS group within ASC X12. This is a group that does 
have representation from federal and some state taxing authorities as well 
as major payroll vendors.
I've copied the chair of the TIGERS workgroup who might be able to tell 
you if a project of this type has been discussed.
Best Regards,
Chuck Allen
Director, HR-XML Consortium, Inc.

From: Paul Kiel [mailto:paul@hr-xml.org]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:14 AM
To: 'Tracy Williams'
Cc: kim@hr-xml.org; Chuck Allen - hrxml
Subject: RE: HR-XML Quick Question (payroll)

Hi Tracy,
Apologies for the delayed reply - I was in Chicago at our latest meeting 
most of last week.
While there have been several attempts to address more of the payroll 
transactions that are of interest to members (i.e. general ledger has been 
brought up numerouos times), there is no current payroll related activity 
within the Consortium right now.  Having said this, we are member driven, 
so if you were to join the Consortium and find like minded folks with an 
interest in standardizing specific transactions, we would certainly 
welcome new activity. 
I'll also pass on your question to our payroll email list to share with 
Paul Kiel
W. Paul Kiel
HR-XML Consortium
-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy Williams [mailto:taw@datatel.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:53 PM
To: paul@hr-xml.org
Subject: HR-XML Quick Question
Are there any plans in the works for an HR-XML schema for payroll tax 
table updates that need to be updated within each payroll system from 
federal/state/local entities to employers?  That would be very helpful 
information if this is being planned or is in the works.

Thank you for any information you can provide!

Tracy Williams, M.A.
Human Resource Product Manager
Datatel, Inc.
How higher education does business.
Voice: 703.227.1141
Fax: 703.968.4573
E-mail: taw@datatel.com


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