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Subject: Re: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process

In the proposed[1] revision[2], I find:

  TC Visibility

  All resources of the TC and its associated subcommittees, including
  web pages, documents, email lists and any other discussions, must be
  located only on facilities provided by OASIS; TCs and SCs may not
  conduct business or technical discussions, store documents, or host
  web pages on non-OASIS servers.

By a strict interpretation of this clause, I am forbidden from
mirroring the DocBook specifications and schemas on docbook.org. Is
that the intent? Or is the intent merely that no TC content may appear
solely on non-OASIS servers?

Suppose a third party, unaffiliated with OASIS or the TC constructs
such a mirror? Will OASIS pursue having those materials removed from
the mirror?

  All web pages, documents, and email archives of all TCs and SCs
  shall be publicly visible.

  Mail Lists

  Each TC shall be provided upon formation with a general discussion
  email list and a means to collect public comments. Subscription to
  the general email list shall be required for Members, Voting
  Members, and Observers of the TC.

  The minutes of each TC meeting and a record of all decisions shall
  be published to that TC's email list. All communications and
  discussions of the TC must take place on the email list.

  All TC email lists shall be archived for the duration of the
  corporation, and all TC email archives shall be publicly visible.
  The purpose of the TC's public comment facility is to receive
  comments from the public and is not for public discussion. Comments
  will be publicly archived, and will be forwarded to one or more TC
  members including the TC Chair. TCs shall not be required to respond
  to comments. Comments to the TC made by TC members must be submitted
  via the TC email list, and comments made by non-TC members,
  including from the public, must be made via the TC's comment form.

Are you saying that members of the public, subscribed to the docbook
and docbook-apps lists may not make comments except via the TC's
comment form? Is the TC forbidden from responding to comments made
on those lists?

  Comments will not be accepted via any other means.

What does that mean? If I bump into a DocBook user at a conference and
that user describes a problem they are having, am I forbidden from
raising that comment as an agenda item on some future meeting until
such time as it's submitted by some official means?

Are we foribidden from discussing TC work products with our friends
and colleagues?

  Web Pages

  The OASIS TC Administrator shall provide the TC with a publicly
  accessible web page.

Is this the Kavi page, or do you mean that the administrator now must
provide a public web page for all TCs?

  The TC must keep the following information current on the TC web
  page: the TC name and charter; standing rules and other adopted
  procedures; meeting schedule; anticipated deliverables and delivery
  dates; list of TC members; the name and email address of the TC
  Chair or co-Chairs as well as other positions such as secretary,
  editor, etc. that may exist; list of subcommittees, their
  deliverables, and members; links to draft and completed TC documents
  with identification of the latest versions of the TC's
  specifications; and IPR declarations.

                                        Be seeing you,

[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/members/200410/msg00004.html
[2] http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf

Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM / XML Standards Architect / Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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