Subject: Re: [docbook-tc] Re: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process
Norman Walsh <email@example.com> writes: > In the proposed revision, I find: > > TC Visibility > > All resources of the TC and its associated subcommittees, including > web pages, documents, email lists and any other discussions, must be > located only on facilities provided by OASIS; TCs and SCs may not > conduct business or technical discussions, store documents, or host > web pages on non-OASIS servers. > > By a strict interpretation of this clause, I am forbidden from > mirroring the DocBook specifications and schemas on docbook.org. Is > that the intent? Or is the intent merely that no TC content may appear > solely on non-OASIS servers? [...] If the consortium wants to compel its members to use its infrastructure, it should start by putting some effort into making that infrastructure useable, beginning with scrapping the Kavi system and starting over with something that isn't completely broken. Concerns about the fundamental inadequacies in Kavi have been presented to OASIS in detail: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200402/msg00013.html And it's not clear what, if anything, has been done to address those concerns. Along with everything else that's been pointed out, it's also worth noting that the OASIS infrastructure provides no publicly available means for issue-tracking (that is, no kind of ticketing system that allows users to submit requests or questions, have those get assigned a unique ID, and then have all later discussions related to that request stored in a database and accessible via the ID). And the current Send a Comment mechanism, to put it as kindly as I can, is not something the consortium should take any pride in. There are sites all over the place that are models of how to do this stuff the right way. The current OASIS site is a model of how not to do it the right way. Compelling members to use it in spite of its serious problems is not going to make it improve. --Mike  By the way, the Send a Comment mechanism provides spammers with an easy means to spam TC mail lists. I just write a script that loops through the names of all the TC mail lists, doing: wget http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/form.php?wg_abbrev=$LISTNAME ... sending post data with a bogus mail address and my spam message.