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Subject: RE: [tgf] OASIS TGF TC - MEETING PAPERS
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Hi All, I
agree with John that excellent progress has been made. However, I do think that
we still have a way to go to formulate some of the detailed material. I’m
thinking particularly of the technical section (where there appear to be differing
views on SOA/EA that have to be resolved) and I assume that we will at some
point wish to agree a set of core technical standards. There may be other
aspects that are needed to stand it up as a standard but I feel that these may
take some time and effort. Regards Nig Nig Greenaway Government Division FUJITSU SERVICES Lovelace Road, Bracknell,
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been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. From: John Borras
[mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk] Thanks Chris for this
update. I agree at this point it is not worth your effort in re-cutting
the documents until after we have discussed it on Thursday’s call.
A lot will depend on how we see the Primer going forward, ie as a Standard or a
Committee Note. If it is to be regarded as a Standard then we will have
to follow a fairly prescriptive template and hence that will determine some of
your points below. If we go the CN route then we should have a fair amount
of freedom to cut it as we wish. I must say that I am
extremely encouraged, and a little surprised, at the rate of progress we are
making and how much common ground there seems to be. At the outset I
thought our initial deliverable would be just a fairly high-level overview of
the TGF and nothing more. And with that in mind whether we chose to go
the standard or committee note route was a bit immaterial to me.
However what we have now is a very rich document which a high percentage of
what we might see as the full end product, and to that extent I think there is
merit in actually thinking now of taking this version through the OASIS
approvals procedures to OASIS Committee Spec at least if not to OASIS
Standard. We have to ask ourselves what further content is required to
make this stand up as an OASIS Standard and I think very little. We do
need to support it with some guidance material which will be Committee
Notes, but as a Spec/Standard I think it can stand on its own merits and we can
provide some very practical and enforceable Conformance Clauses. I hope we can find
enough time on Thursday’s call to discuss this point and reach agreement,
but early views from everyone will help to save time on the call. John From: Chris Parker
[mailto:chris.parker@cstransform.com] Please
find attached a zip file with the updated TGF paper and appendices. I
hope I’ve fully addressed all the comments received on the last version,
although there are still some issues listed in John’s Issue Log that we
ought to discuss on the call on Thursday. I
haven’t though, as yet, done the restructuring suggested by Colin.
I like his idea of having a “nice and tight” consolidated section
which is the core standard, with relatively little discussion surrounding
it. But having had a couple of plays with doing this, I think that Colin’s
suggestion may not be the best way to do it. So I think it makes sense to
discuss the alternatives as a group before re-cutting the material. What
I would like to propose is the following. The material in the attached
files sits currently at 2 levels – at the first level is the main TGF
Primer in 3 parts, supported at a second level by four individual frameworks on
business/customers/channels/technology as described in the
appendices. Having reviewed the document in the light of
Colin’s suggestion, my proposal is that we split this material into three
rather than two levels, as follows: 1)
The
TGF Primer. This would include: -
all
the material in Part I of the attached main primer document (intro, context,
audience etc) -
an
overview of the structure of the TGF (ie introducing Figure 1 for the first
time) -
all
the “context” sections from the appendices to explain the
background to the major service delivery components 2)
The
TGF Core Specification. This would be the “nice and tight”
standard which Colin has asked for. It would: -
set
out all the detail of principles, CSFs and benefit realisation which is
currently in Part II of the attached overview doc -
also
set out the “hard” part of the four appendices, ie the
“overview” text and diagrams which set out the key components, plus
the associated conformance criteria -
end
with the consolidated overview of conformance criteria which is currently in
Part III of the overview doc. 3)
A
set of supporting appendices on
business/customers/channels/technology/terminology, which would use all the
material in the “Detailed Description” sections of the current
appendices. This
is not massively dissimilar to Colin’s suggestion. The key
difference is that I am suggesting that if all the discursive material
in the current appendices were moved into the first section (as I think Colin
is suggesting), then this would make that document over-long. So I am
suggesting that the discussion about context and background gets moved up, and
that the discussion/description of each detailed component gets moved down a
level into a set of annexes (level 3 in the list above). I
hope this makes sense. I have a clear picture in my head of how it would
work, and hope I’ve communicated it effectively! But because
it’s a little different from Colin’s suggestion, and because
it touches on a central issue for the TC as a whole (ie how much of all this
qualifies as an OASIS specification), I thought it would be worth having a
discussion on the main TC before I do the restructuring work. Regards, Chris Parker Managing Partner, CS Transform Ltd, +44 7951 754 060 From: John Borras
[mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk] Please find attached the papers for our TC
call on Thursday. If anyone has any other items for inclusion on the
agenda will they please let me know in advance. The dial-in details are included in the
agenda file, and thanks to Steve for use of his conference facilities this
time. Hopefully Chris will find time to complete
a further iteration of the Primer before the meeting, if not we’ll refer
to his original draft which was circulated on 6th February. Advance notice of any absences would be
appreciated please. Regards John Borras Chair OASIS TGF
Technical Committee m. +(0)44 7976
157745 Skype:
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