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Subject: RE: [tgf] Issue - Conceptual - Identity Management, legal barriers, lines 978ff - closed
OK, just rendered that as: “…centuries of piecemeal approaches taken by public administrations (as well as, more recently, also by the private sector) and put in place…” I will reply separately on Andy’s other more general point. Peter From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk] Seems a pragmatic compromise. John From: Colin Wallis [mailto:Colin.Wallis@dia.govt.nz] Fair point. So the bit you would want to see changed is: 'centuries of piecemeal approaches taken by public administrations' to something like 'centuries of piecemeal approaches taken by public administrations and more recently by the private sector' ..keeping the notion that both public and more recently private approaches have all been piecemeal..:-) Cheers Colin From: Andy Hopkirk [mailto:andy.hopkirk@gmail.com] A thought on the identity management discussion below.... At least in the UK, the notion of citizen-centric identity management is being put about (again), as part of the (i) re-localisation political agenda and (ii) by the 'open society' gang as part of their citizen responsibility/ my control of my data agenda. [The concept runs thus... I control my identity record in a public or private 'record store' and give permisssions to others - inc. government - to use that up to date identity for purposes only I can approve of (or not, as the case may be)]. Begs the question in my mind to maybe not be too definitive about identity management as being something that will always be only within government's remit to control and only in harmony with the long established legal precedents... because change happens, sometimes quickly... Andy On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com> wrote: Nig: OK, what I have now is: “Although the advent of e Government held out the promise of significant simplification of identity management - bringing service improvement gains for the citizen and efficiency savings for the Government - significant barriers remain. These include legal barriers that have grown up over centuries of piecemeal approaches taken by public administrations and put in place often to protect individuals from the effects of equally piecemeal processes. As such the impact of any changes must be considered very carefully.” Does this capture it? Peter From: Greenaway Nigel [mailto:Nig.Greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com] Line 980. I think it is worth elaboration on the ‘significant barriers’ a little. I suggest adding a further couple of sentences:- “There may be legal barriers that have been created over time by the piecemeal approaches taken over centuries of silo-based activity. Many of these will have been put in place to protect individuals and the impact of and any changes to them must be considered very carefully ” Regards Nig Nig Greenaway Government Division FUJITSU SERVICES Lovelace Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 8SN Tel: +44 (0) 843 354 5637 Internal: 7302 5637 Mob : +44 (0) 7867 833147 Internal: 7383 3147 E-mail: nig.greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com Fujitsu Services Limited, Registered in England no 96056, Registered Office 22 Baker Street, London, W1U 3BW This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents are subject to a duty of confidence and may be privileged. Fujitsu Services does not guarantee that this e-mail has not been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. ==== |
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