RE: [tgf] TGF PL document public review contribution

[Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>]

Andy, John, all - 
In order to be able to address all the points raised by TC members and non-members alike, I will use the following systematic approach, as recommended by many TC's:
- each issue, however minor, will be tabulated with an indication of the change proposed and rationale;
- Chris and I will give an opinion as editors (and where useful additionally from other original contributors) and a "proposed disposition";
- the proposed disposition will be communicated back to the comment submitter with an offer to accept or further comment;
- this completed tabulation will be circulated to the TC for further comment;
- we will go through the list of unresolved issues at our meeting next week.

One note of caution: there is no formal provision in the TC process to consider "non-substantive changes" that could avoid a further 15-day review. The TC process wording is very clear on this:
"If any changes are made to the draft after the public review, whether as a result of public review comments or from TC Member input, then the TC must conduct another review cycle. The draft may not be considered for approval by the TC as a Committee Specification or Committee Note until it has undergone a review cycle during which it has received no comments that result in any changes."

I would argue therefore that the burden of proof is on us to demonstrate unequivocally that all issues raised are so minor as to not constitute "changes" but this may be difficult to sustain. Only the TC can determine whether that is the case for all comments - at worst, it will mean signing off as a completed spec at our December rather than the November meeting. Let's see how the work progresses in the next week or so...

Best regards,
Peter

Peter F Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of John Borras
Sent: Monday, 24 October, 2011 01:13
To: 'Andy Hopkirk'; 'TGF TC List'
Subject: RE: [tgf] TGF PL document public review contribution

Andy

Thanks for this comprehensive review!  It looks a daunting set of changes but I suggest if we break it down it's not that bad.

1.  There is a lot of basic word-smithing type stuff which I'm happy to accept and we can treat as non-substantive.
2.  There are some suggestions of naming inconsistencies and sequencing particularly between Fig 1 and the text of the document, eg Franchise Model, Transformational Roadmap.  You're probably right on these but I'd defer to Chris on them as it's mostly his source material.
3.  You suggest a basic change from Citizen to Customer throughout. I'm not happy with this.  When I was in Gov't I could never accept that governments had customers, it just never felt the right word although it's probably very PC. Customers normally have a choice of suppliers, but taxpayers don't. So I would want to stay with the generic use of Citizen as we have it.
4.  Your suggestion of consistent formatting of the Patterns seems fair comment but I'd ask for Peter's views on your proposals.
5.  You suggest we shouldn't express opinions unless we can back them up with referenced material.  I don't altogether agree with this. We as a TC of experienced eGov professionals have the right to express opinions based on our experience and judgment so I wouldn't agree with your view on this.

So in an effort to clear your comments, perhaps Peter could deal with 1 and
4 above without further discussion unless anyone has any objections, and on our call next week we can focus on points 2, 3 and 5 plus anything else anyone wants to raise.


John

-----Original Message-----
From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Andy Hopkirk
Sent: 23 October 2011 20:52
To: TGF TC List
Subject: [tgf] TGF PL document public review contribution

hi,
My contribution to the TGF Pattern Language document public review is attached.
Is in Word .docx and should be viewed showing comments and Tracked Changes.
Andy


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