Hello Riku
It was very good to meet you yesterday in Brussels. As promised I’ve set out below my thoughts on how we might proceed with incorporating CAMSS into the OASIS Transformational Government Framework and through this help you meet the sustainability objectives of CAMSS.
Option 1
The quick and easy option is for us to include a recommendation for CAMSS in our Policy Product Matrix in the same way as we have done for ADMS, see https://wiki.oasis-open.org/tgf/cell%20Technical%20Management/Semantic . Whilst this would give good visibility to CAMSS it would not achieve the sustainability that you require as the Method and Library would still need to be maintained by the Commission. We could do this as an interim step whilst you consult on the other options listed below?
Option 2 – Sustainability of the Method
This option would perhaps provide the better long term process. It would require the EC contributing the CAMSS Method to the OASIS TGF TC in accordance with the OASIS IPR Policy, see https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/ipr#contributions . To do this someone from the Commission, or their authorized representative, would need to join the TGF TC and formally contribute the Method. The TC could then either accept that version and include it in the TGF as just a Method for use by EU Member States, or as we discussed yesterday use it as a basis for producing a more global Method which may mean some changes would be necessary to your current version. Whichever version is produced, ie an EU or a global version, it becomes the property of OASIS in accordance with the IPR policy and if the Commission wanted to make changes at any time in the future they would have to be negotiated within the TC.
This option does however have the benefit of allowing for the Method to become a formal Specification under the OASIS TC procedures and therefore it would be maintained and made available by OASIS thus providing you with a long term sustainable path. And one further point that may be of interest to you. It is our longer intention to take the TGF into ISO and make it an ISO Standard and when we achieve that it would of course cement the long term of the TGF. We do not currently have a timescale for this as we need a good deal of adoption of the TGF before we can take that step.
Option 3 – Sustainability of the Library
As I said yesterday OASIS would not be in a position to provide a sustainable path for the Library so the Commission would need to look after that aspect themselves. But just one thought to reflect on. If we produce a global version of the Method within the OASIS TC there will be a need for a global Library and presumably the Commission would not want to open up their Library for global usage? So between us we would need to look for another alternative for hosting the Library which could/should include migrating the Commission’s version to it.
In summary I would favour Option 2 and my OASIS TC producing a global version of CAMSS but we would need to address the Library problem. Perhaps there are other options you wish to consider, if so please let me know.
I look forward to hearing from you further.
Regards
John Borras
Chair OASIS TGF Technical Committee
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From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 15 June 2012 15:37
To: 'Riku.JYLHANKANGAS@ec.europa.eu'
Cc: 'peter@peterfbrown.com'
Subject: RE: CAMSS and OASIS TGF
Hello Riku
This is great news and I look forward to meeting you on Monday at the SEMIC conference.
Regards
John
From: Riku.JYLHANKANGAS@ec.europa.eu [mailto:Riku.JYLHANKANGAS@ec.europa.eu]
Sent: 15 June 2012 15:24
To: peter@peterfbrown.com
Cc: johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: RE: CAMSS and OASIS TGF
Hello,
Thanks for your mail. We have had 2 meetings with Member States and they have now endorsed the revised CAMSS. It's available online: https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/fpfis/mwikis/idabc-camss/
Member States also were in favour of the option of collaboration with Oasis. I think we could now discuss a bit about the details (first at the SEMIC conference) and then do a short 1-2 pages draft proposal for our hierarchy for decisions.
So I would be very happy to discuss this further with John on Monday.
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
Riku Jylhänkangas
Programme manager - EU policies
European Commission
Directorate-General for Informatics (DIGIT)
Interoperability Solutions for European Public Administrations (ISA)
Rue Montoyer 34 3/88, B-1049 Brussels
Tel. +32 2 29 51854 E-mail: isa@ec.europa.eu
From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:37 AM
To: JYLHANKANGAS Riku (DIGIT)
Cc: John Borras (johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk)
Subject: CAMSS and OASIS TGF
Importance: High
Hi Riku,
Just a quick note to see how things are moving with regard to CAMSS.
When we last spoke, you mentioned that the project would in a matter of weeks be considering future actions, including the possibility of bringing this work to OASIS for formal standardization.
Are you any closer to a decision? Is there anything further that we can do to help you?
As you may know, my colleague John Borras will be at the SEMIC event in Brussels next week and would be happy to meet with you to discuss this further, at your convenience.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns
Best regards,
Peter
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