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Subject: Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement
The ODCA has been doing this. Have a look at http://www.opendatacenteralliance.org/ourwork/proposalengineassistant?option=com_rfptool&task=step1&Itemid=299&solution_type=ENTERPRISE /c On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Neil McEvoy <neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org> wrote: > > Right. When I was creating the Cloud RFP service, I learned about all the > different aspects of Encryption : Disk, VM, database, on-site, ... etc. > > The common message from all the experts in each area was that 'Key > Management' is the most important part, for security & compliance, but > without repeating it in each different area... > > Et voila: OASIS KMIP, which provides a standards solution for this unified > approach. > > Therefore some template RFP material that helped guide buyers this way would > be very useful to the procurement process, and I know that despite NIST et > al, no one is covering this ground yet - So great membership pull for > OASIS.. > > Neil. > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Laurent M Liscia > <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org> wrote: >> >> That's a great idea, Neil. >> Generally speaking, I don't see why we wouldn't be able to reach out to a >> variety of eurozone govs and ask them for input (and participation) so that >> said templates might be developed. >> >> -- >> Laurent Liscia, CEO >> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >> (510) 669-1261 >> >> Follow OASIS on: >> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open >> >> Take a tour of OASIS at: >> http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/1/2012 5:31 AM, Neil McEvoy wrote: >> >> >> Hi John >> >> I agree, and actually this service here is based on my engagement with the >> Province of Ontario: http://CloudRFP.info >> >> So there are the first pioneers in government now recognizing the move to >> Cloud and are preparing for it, including engaging consulting as I >> demonstrate. This template can now be used by other Ontario agencies for >> their RFP procurements as well, and so will underpin more work for >> additional consultants as well as myself. >> >> I also agree that OASIS would need to cultivate more in-depth resources >> for further engagement, which is where our TC efforts can feed in. >> >> For example I'd recommend a set of RFP templates from each group (eg Key >> Management from KMIP) and that PACR co-ordinates these in to one overall set >> as per the groups agenda. >> >> Cheers, Neil. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:04 AM, John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> >>> IMO the challenge is not about trying to convince the consultancy houses >>> that they need to be conformant with OASIS, or any other open, standards, we >>> should be looking to get the government agencies to embrace the standards >>> and then demand conformance to them in their procurement of consultancy and >>> other ICT services. So I think we need to target the public sector bodies >>> and get them on board. But as we all know that is very difficult and >>> invariably hasn’t worked in the past because nobody has been able to produce >>> a convincing enough business case for them to do so. What I would like to >>> see is our eGov Member Section produce such a document but that will need a >>> good deal of input from the membership as it’s beyond the resources of the >>> Steering Committee. >>> >>> >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On >>> Behalf Of Neil McEvoy >>> Sent: 30 September 2012 22:30 >>> To: Peter F Brown >>> Cc: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org; Carol Geyer; laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org >>> Subject: Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes Peter, the migration to Cloud services, especially for folks like >>> government, will generate a mass of the consulting work that is bread and >>> butter for these folks: Business transformation, analysis and audit, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have had a crack at a white paper that introduces the TGF and PACR >>> work, mapped to local requirements, in this case the Province of Ontario: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://DrummondCloud.info >>> >>> >>> >>> If I can get lots of Ontario province folks interested, that will attract >>> the consultants.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Neil. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Indeed, and with all three of the big 5 you mention being members of >>> OASIS already, I have tried talking to them to see about engaging further… >>> >>> I will be talking with Bill Eggers in Washington in a couple of weeks and >>> have good contacts with Capgemini too, less so with PwC…. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Neil McEvoy [mailto:neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org] >>> Sent: Sunday, 30 September, 2012 20:43 >>> To: Peter F Brown >>> Cc: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org; Carol Geyer; laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org >>> Subject: Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes Peter I understand the role OASIS should play as a standards body, >>> distinct from the consultants who would then do the related commercial >>> engagements. Defining the nature of this relationship would be part of what >>> to include in this consulting pack that could also be part of their OASIS >>> membership (IPR agreements etc.). >>> >>> >>> >>> I`ve also just been discussing this point with Laurent, that I can see >>> good opportunity to engage with the Cap Geminis, PwCs, Deloittes, ... etc. >>> with these programs and co-op marketing activities as the incentives for >>> them to join, so it would be helpful to list the TC assets they would be >>> entitled to when they join. >>> >>> >>> >>> There are some initial intro slides material for an upcoming webinar that >>> we could add to, to get the ball rolling.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, Neil. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Neil, >>> >>> Thanks for raising this important point – and not an easy one to deal >>> with…. >>> >>> My quick take would be that this has little to do with the core OASIS >>> business model: OASIS makes its money from a “pay to play” model for the >>> development of standards and are certainly keen, through various channels to >>> see them taken up and used; but OASIS has no role in nurturing specific >>> SoW’s or contracted work for any party wishing to benefit from the expertize >>> of a TC member or organization: that is usually down to the members >>> themselves to shoulder. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, I’m copying in OASIS’ business development manager who has >>> recently talked to the OASIS Board about better ways of promoting the >>> results of our standards work and getting greater traction and buy through, >>> for example, specific marketing groups or campaigns. >>> >>> The specific sector we are concerned with her e- the public sector in >>> their “post eGov strategies” has been notoriously difficult for us to >>> address. We have had several discussions about how to do this and, >>> certainly, ideas such as white papers, a common slide deck of key issues, >>> case studies, etc. can all help that. >>> >>> Carol – thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On >>> Behalf Of Neil McEvoy >>> Sent: Saturday, 29 September, 2012 13:40 >>> To: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org >>> Subject: [tgf] Consulting Engagement >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> >>> >>> I`m wondering how governments are enabled to engage with the TGF? I >>> presume they can join OASIS and then the group, but then what? >>> >>> >>> >>> This would suggest a consulting engagement - Is this supported and if so >>> how? >>> >>> >>> >>> Resources for this could include: >>> >>> >>> >>> - Marketing white paper >>> >>> - PPT deck >>> >>> - Template documents for SOW engagement >>> >>> - Template Competency Framework >>> >>> - etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Neil McEvoy >>> VP Business Development >>> iFOSSF.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Neil McEvoy >>> VP Business Development >>> iFOSSF.org >>> Skype:neil.mcevoy1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Neil McEvoy >>> VP Business Development >>> iFOSSF.org >>> Skype:neil.mcevoy1 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil McEvoy >> VP Business Development >> iFOSSF.org >> Skype:neil.mcevoy1 >> >> > > > > -- > Neil McEvoy > VP Business Development > iFOSSF.org > Skype:neil.mcevoy1 -- /chet ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open
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