Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> wrote:

The ODCA has been doing this. Have a look at
http://www.opendatacenteralliance.org/ourwork/proposalengineassistant?option=com_rfptool&task=step1&Itemid=299&solution_type=ENTERPRISE

/c

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Neil McEvoy
<neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Right. When I was creating the Cloud RFP service, I learned about all the
> different aspects of Encryption : Disk, VM, database, on-site, ... etc.
>
> The common message from all the experts in each area was that 'Key
> Management' is the most important part, for security & compliance, but
> without repeating it in each different area...
>
> Et voila: OASIS KMIP, which provides a standards solution for this unified
> approach.
>
> Therefore some template RFP material that helped guide buyers this way would
> be very useful to the procurement process, and I know that despite NIST et
> al, no one is covering this ground yet - So great membership pull for
> OASIS..
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Laurent M Liscia
> <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org> wrote:
>>
>> That's a great idea, Neil.
>> Generally speaking, I don't see why we wouldn't be able to reach out to a
>> variety of eurozone govs and ask them for input (and participation) so that
>> said templates might be developed.
>>
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>> On 10/1/2012 5:31 AM, Neil McEvoy wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi John
>>
>> I agree, and actually this service here is based on my engagement with the
>> Province of Ontario: http://CloudRFP.info
>>
>> So there are the first pioneers in government now recognizing the move to
>> Cloud and are preparing for it, including engaging consulting as I
>> demonstrate. This template can now be used by other Ontario agencies for
>> their RFP procurements as well, and so will underpin more work for
>> additional consultants as well as myself.
>>
>> I also agree that OASIS would need to cultivate more in-depth resources
>> for further engagement, which is where our TC efforts can feed in.
>>
>> For example I'd recommend a set of RFP templates from each group (eg Key
>> Management from KMIP) and that PACR co-ordinates these in to one overall set
>> as per the groups agenda.
>>
>> Cheers, Neil.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:04 AM, John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IMO the challenge is not about trying to convince the consultancy houses
>>> that they need to be conformant with OASIS, or any other open, standards, we
>>> should be looking to get the government agencies to embrace the standards
>>> and then demand conformance to them in their procurement of consultancy and
>>> other ICT services. So I think we need to target the public sector bodies
>>> and get them on board. But as we all know that is very difficult and
>>> invariably hasn’t worked in the past because nobody has been able to produce
>>> a convincing enough business case for them to do so. What I would like to
>>> see is our eGov Member Section produce such a document but that will need a
>>> good deal of input from the membership as it’s beyond the resources of the
>>> Steering Committee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Neil McEvoy
>>> Sent: 30 September 2012 22:30
>>> To: Peter F Brown
>>> Cc: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org; Carol Geyer; laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes Peter, the migration to Cloud services, especially for folks like
>>> government, will generate a mass of the consulting work that is bread and
>>> butter for these folks: Business transformation, analysis and audit, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had a crack at a white paper that introduces the TGF and PACR
>>> work, mapped to local requirements, in this case the Province of Ontario:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://DrummondCloud.info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I can get lots of Ontario province folks interested, that will attract
>>> the consultants..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Neil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed, and with all three of the big 5 you mention being members of
>>> OASIS already, I have tried talking to them to see about engaging further…
>>>
>>> I will be talking with Bill Eggers in Washington in a couple of weeks and
>>> have good contacts with Capgemini too, less so with PwC….
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Neil McEvoy [mailto:neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org]
>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 September, 2012 20:43
>>> To: Peter F Brown
>>> Cc: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org; Carol Geyer; laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes Peter I understand the role OASIS should play as a standards body,
>>> distinct from the consultants who would then do the related commercial
>>> engagements. Defining the nature of this relationship would be part of what
>>> to include in this consulting pack that could also be part of their OASIS
>>> membership (IPR agreements etc.).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I`ve also just been discussing this point with Laurent, that I can see
>>> good opportunity to engage with the Cap Geminis, PwCs, Deloittes, ... etc.
>>> with these programs and co-op marketing activities as the incentives for
>>> them to join, so it would be helpful to list the TC assets they would be
>>> entitled to when they join.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There are some initial intro slides material for an upcoming webinar that
>>> we could add to, to get the ball rolling..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards, Neil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Neil,
>>>
>>> Thanks for raising this important point – and not an easy one to deal
>>> with….
>>>
>>> My quick take would be that this has little to do with the core OASIS
>>> business model: OASIS makes its money from a “pay to play” model for the
>>> development of standards and are certainly keen, through various channels to
>>> see them taken up and used; but OASIS has no role in nurturing specific
>>> SoW’s or contracted work for any party wishing to benefit from the expertize
>>> of a TC member or organization: that is usually down to the members
>>> themselves to shoulder.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, I’m copying in OASIS’ business development manager who has
>>> recently talked to the OASIS Board about better ways of promoting the
>>> results of our standards work and getting greater traction and buy through,
>>> for example, specific marketing groups or campaigns.
>>>
>>> The specific sector we are concerned with her e- the public sector in
>>> their “post eGov strategies” has been notoriously difficult for us to
>>> address. We have had several discussions about how to do this and,
>>> certainly, ideas such as white papers, a common slide deck of key issues,
>>> case studies, etc. can all help that.
>>>
>>> Carol – thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Neil McEvoy
>>> Sent: Saturday, 29 September, 2012 13:40
>>> To: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: [tgf] Consulting Engagement
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I`m wondering how governments are enabled to engage with the TGF? I
>>> presume they can join OASIS and then the group, but then what?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This would suggest a consulting engagement - Is this supported and if so
>>> how?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Resources for this could include:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Marketing white paper
>>>
>>> - PPT deck
>>>
>>> - Template documents for SOW engagement
>>>
>>> - Template Competency Framework
>>>
>>> - etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil McEvoy
>>> VP Business Development
>>> iFOSSF.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil McEvoy
>>> VP Business Development
>>> iFOSSF.org
>>> Skype:neil.mcevoy1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil McEvoy
>>> VP Business Development
>>> iFOSSF.org
>>> Skype:neil.mcevoy1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil McEvoy
>> VP Business Development
>> iFOSSF.org
>> Skype:neil.mcevoy1
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Neil McEvoy
> VP Business Development
> iFOSSF.org
> Skype:neil.mcevoy1

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/chet
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