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Subject: RE: Kal is subscribed! (was RE: [tm-pubsubj-comment] Good PSIs neverdie)
Kal: Ideally that would be the case. But requiring subcriptions seems to keep most of the spam out. </karl> ================================================================= Karl F. Best OASIS - Director, Technical Operations +1 978.667.5115 x206 karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Kal Ahmed [mailto:kal@techquila.com] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:39 AM > To: tm-pubsubj-comment@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Kal is subscribed! (was RE: [tm-pubsubj-comment] Good PSIs > never die) > > > My mistake, I had thought that because this was a public list > I didn't need > to subscribe but could just post. My apologies to those who > had to read (or > delete) this diversion from the thread. > > Kal > > At 08:53 25/03/2002 -0500, Karl F. Best wrote: > > > Kal cannot post to this list. He has interesting contributions. > > > Isn't tm-pubsubj-comment public? > > > >He should subscribe first. Then he can post. > > > ></karl> > >================================================================= > >Karl F. Best > >OASIS - Director, Technical Operations > >+1 978.667.5115 x206 > >karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Bandholtz, Thomas [mailto:thomas.bandholtz@koeln.sema.slb.com] > >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:35 AM > >To: 'tm-pubsubj-comment@lists.oasis-open.org' > >Cc: 'bernard.vatant@mondeca.com' > >Subject: FW: [tm-pubsubj-comment] Good PSIs never die > > > > > >Kal cannot post to this list. He has interesting contributions. Isn't > >tm-pubsubj-comment public? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kal Ahmed [mailto:kal@techquila.com] > >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:10 PM > >To: Bandholtz, Thomas > >Subject: RE: [tm-pubsubj-comment] Good PSIs never die > > > > > >Thomas, > > > >My last email was bounced by the list as well... :-( > > > >At 13:54 21/03/2002 +0100, you wrote: > > > >[Kal:] > >No one has yet said that the documentation would be XML ! But even so > >which is more human readable: > > > ><record> > ><isbn>123456-09-23</isbn> > ><auth-code>AHM1298</auth-code> > ><pubdate>20011110</pubdate> > ><stock-code>98993939385402</stock-code> > ></record> > > > ><book> > ><book-title>XML Meta Data</book-title> > ><authors> > > <author>Kal Ahmed</author> > > <author>Danny Ayers</author> > > ... > ></authors> > ><published>2001-11-10</published> > ><description> -- blurb about the book goes here </description> > ></book> > > > >I would suggest that XML of the first form is > "machine-readable" and XML > >of the second form is "human-readable". But depending upon > the system(s) > >involved, the first form might be the only form that can be > >automatically generated for the subject indicator. > >[Thomas:] > >We have been talking about XTM, RDF, XHTML, customized XML > so far - all > >this is XML. But you may be right - needs not to be XML. But > I think it > >should not be binary encoded. > > > > > >If this became a limitation for a PSI, it would restrict > PSIs to being a > >much smaller subset of all subject indicators. The ISO and XTM > >specifications do not specify a format for a subject > indicator. I guess > >it would be a shame if that flexibility had to be sacrificed > for PSIs. > > > > > > > >Readability only depends on the specific intelligence > implemented in the > >machine/human. > >If I (human, hopefully) understand the encoding of > <auth-code> etc., I > >can read it. > >If a machine doesn't, it cannot read it neither. > > > > > >This is true within the definition of "readable". But should a PSI > >resource be "readable" or "understandable". If it is the > latter, should > >that "understandability" be dependent on other knowledge > external to the > >resource itself ? In limited circumstances (e.g. intranet or extranet > >environments) it could be argued that all users of the PSI would know > >what auth-code indictaed (esp. if using a documented schema). But in > >generalised internet solutions, surely a subject indicator > that relies > >on knowledge of yet another schema would be flawed ? > > > >Cheers, > > > >Kal > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > >manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> >
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