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Subject: [tm-pubsubj] Re: Publishing PSIs


Murray,

I was unaware of the IP issues and all of the work that you have already 
done, otherwise I would not have proposed a region.xtm. You are very, very 
right. This is really the first matter at hand, and I don't see how we can 
go forward in the committee without settling it.

Best regards,
Mary


At 04:20 AM 1/4/02 -0800, Murray Altheim wrote:
>Let me digress from the technical for a moment to discuss an
>important topic that we've to my knowledge not yet brought to
>the table.
>
>The recent message from Mary brought up for me a number of touchy
>issues that perhaps she is not aware of, issues that come from some
>of the history of the TopicMaps.Org Authoring Group.
>
>Following on from my development of the language.xtm and country.xtm
>topic maps (published as part of the XTM 1.0 Specification) I went
>ahead and developed a number of other topic maps I felt might be
>useful within the community. The reasons these haven't been published
>have to do with both the IP issues of me working at Sun (though this
>isn't a real barrier unless I make it one), the lack of a publishing
>authority (given that TopicMaps.Org disappeared from the scene), and
>finally what I consider the poor record of what I'd consider fair
>attribution in our group's history. As Steve Newcomb will attest, my
>feelings regarding people getting proper and fair credit for work
>accomplished are very strong, as well as people making unauthorized
>edits or changes to what is not their intellectual property, changes
>made without even asking the author. Sometimes this is a legal matter,
>sometimes just a courtesy, but in either case it's good practice.
>
>I honestly bristled at Mary having modified these files as well as
>duplicating work I'd done last year, just as if someone had modified
>any work I'd put substantial effort into without asking or beforehand
>establishing any relationship to myself or the work. As a number of
>people receiving this message are well aware, there was a major scrape
>over the removal of four names from both the XTM specification and the
>XTM DTD, which has never been remedied. You still don't see Steve and
>Michel's name on the XTM Spec, despite an agreement within the
>Authoring Group that this should occur. We really don't need to rehash
>this history, suffice it to say that the issue is still within the
>community, dormant and hot like smouldering leaves. I don't want to
>bang on Mary's head about this particularly, but if there's a hot
>button for me in this group, she has inadvertently pushed it.
>
>To put it more bluntly, until there is some understanding between
>the parties about what processes and responsibilities are to be
>established surrounding the work of this group, I'll not be
>releasing *any* of my work to this group. As many could tell you,
>this is not due to any lack of generosity on my part. I'm quite willing
>to provide these materials to the group once these relationships have
>been established. But I don't want the kinds of issues that we've
>seen in the past surfacing again. Otherwise I'll be publishing my
>work under a very different copyright, one that would not allow
>anyone to make any changes to the document without my permission.
>I don't imagine this will be necessary, but I want to be very clear
>that IP issues must be resolved before we move forward.
>
>Murray
>
>...........................................................................
>Murray Altheim                         <mailto:murray.altheim&#x40;sun.com>
>XML Technology Center, Java and XML Software
>Sun Microsystems, Inc., MS MPK17-102, 1601 Willow Rd., Menlo Park, CA 94025
>
>                 Corporations do not have human rights.



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