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Subject: Re: [tm-pubsubj] Subject Indicator and Subject Indicator Reference(again)
Lars Marius Your viewpoint is consistent. Others? Bernard ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Lars Marius Garshol" <larsga@garshol.priv.no> À : "tm-pubsubj" <tm-pubsubj@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Steve Newcomb" <srn@coolheads.com>; "Michel Biezunski" <mb@infoloom.com> Envoyé : mercredi 23 janvier 2002 12:59 Objet : Re: [tm-pubsubj] Subject Indicator and Subject Indicator Reference (again) > > * Bernard Vatant > | > | 1. What is the "subject indicator reference" ? > > I'd say 1.b), that is, the URI. (This is what your proposed definition > in the REC says.) > > | 2. What is the "subject indicator" ? > > It's the resource (in this case, document) referred to by the URI. > That is, 2.b). > > | -- But I'm afraid what we have put in the RecommendationsGlossary is > | more like 1.b) and 2.b) > > It is. > > | -- And ISO 13250 seems to say 2.b) also for subject indicator (or is > | it clear about it?) > > It doesn't use the term. It talks about subject descriptors and how > the 'identity' attribute refers to them. > > | -- My view is that sticking to 2.a) "subject indicator" = "subject > | identifier" = "the URI" is the more sustainable and explainable. > > That's quite simply wrong. If you have a topic map that uses a subject > indicator it's quite clear that it contains a reference to something > that indicates the subject. It's also quite clear that the reference > is the URI, while the thing that actually does the indication is the > resource. Now, what is the most useful is actually the subject > indicator reference, but that doesn't affect the terminology. > > The URI is clearly a kind of subject identifier, but I think we should > steer clear of that term, since we don't need it, and SIR is easier to > understand. > > The xlink:href is what asserts the reference, by the way. It is *not* > the reference. This is the difference between addressing and linking. > The xlink:ref is the link, the URI the address. > > Would it help if I sat down and wrote up an explanation of this as I > see it, which you can then either shoot down or adopt? (Would solve > the "what do we put in instead of the glossary" problem at the same > time. :-) > > | In that case we have no name for 2.b) in the case the resource is > | not a declared Subject Definition Resource (the quoted example). But > | do we need a name in that (non recommended) case? > > We have all the terms we need already. We just need to be clear on > what they mean. :-) > > --Lars M. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> >
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