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Subject: [tm-pubsubj] FW: TC comment list configurations (part 1)
I think this debate is of interest to the (private) TC list, since it is questioning the way we have worked so far. Answer from Karl in part 2 | -----Original Message----- | From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com] | Sent: mercredi 5 février 2003 22:57 | To: 'karl.best@oasis-open.org'; 'rkthunga@interposting.com'; | 'rexb@starbourne.com'; 'larsga@garshol.priv.no'; 'Holger.Rath@empolis.com' | | | Karl | | I'm quite puzzled by your message. I don't know about my colleagues Lars | Marius and Holger, but I certainly missed, on purpose, the distinguo | between "public comment" and "public discussion". In Topic Maps land, all | standardization process has always been very open and public. Maybe it's | again OASIS rules, but letting people *comment* without ability to | *discuss* is something that I just can't understand, and even less | *stand*. "We've heard what you have to say, thanks, we'll take it into | account". This is the way it is done in many places, yes ... why? I | wonder. And those places in any case I fly away from. | For me, either a process is public, and there is a forum for public | discussion, either it is not for some good reason, and all is private: no | public discussion, no public comment. Concerning our TCs (Published | Subjects) work, I don't see *any* reason not to have public discussion. I | would say the more we have, the better. | | The work of Published Subjects TCs is deeply connected with other working | groups, like ISO SC34/WG3, or recently XRI, and hopefully other to come, | like OWL. Issues are discussed back and forth. If not on the public lists, | where are those exchanges supposed to be made? | | In which way public discussion is a problem? For whom? | Why should the discussion be "prevented"? | | This latter expression just frightens me ... sorry, I've always been a man | of free speech. Is OASIS the wrong place for that? I hope not. | | Regards | | Bernard | _____________________________________ | | Bernard Vatant | Senior Consultant - Knowledge Engineering | www.mondeca.com | _____________________________________ | | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: Karl Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] | | Sent: mardi 4 février 2003 18:52 | | To: rkthunga@interposting.com; rexb@starbourne.com; | | bernard.vatant@mondeca.com; larsga@garshol.priv.no; | | Holger.Rath@empolis.com | | | | Ranjeeth and Rex (HumanML): | | Bernard, Lars, Holger (TopicMaps): | | | | As part of moving our TC operations to the Kavi system I'm looking at | | how our mail lists should be configured. I'm concerned specifically | | about the TC comment lists. When I refer back to the OASIS TC Process | | (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.shtml#visibility) I see: | | | | "...Each TC shall be provided upon formation with a general list and a | | comment list.... The purpose of the TC comment list is to receive | | comments from the public and is not for public discussion. The comment | | list of a TC shall be publicly subscribable. TCs shall not be required | | to respond to comments...." | | | | In particular I'm very concerned that various comment lists have turned | | into public discussion lists, yours in particular -- which I why I'm | | corresponding with just you instead of all of the chairs. | | | | I need to set up the comment lists so that they can be used as intended | | simply for one-way communication, i.e. submission of comments from the | | public to the TC. A simple way to accomplish this would be for messages | | from the comment list to be forwarded to the TC list, but I have doubts | | of whether that would prevent discussions. The other option would be for | | the comments to be sent strictly to the chair, or to a small number of | | people nominated by the chair. But I'm not sure how this fits with the | | requirement that "The comment list of a TC shall be publicly | | subscribable." Another option is to have the comment lists moderated by | | someone (who? the chair?) so that discussion can be prevented. | | | | Comments? | | | | | | -Karl | | | | ================================================================= | | Karl F. Best | | Vice President, OASIS | | +1 978.667.5115 x206 | | karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org
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