[tm-pubsubj] FW: TC comment list configurations (part 1)

[Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>]

I think this debate is of interest to the (private) TC list, since it is
questioning the way we have worked so far.

Answer from Karl in part 2

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com]
| Sent: mercredi 5 février 2003 22:57
| To: 'karl.best@oasis-open.org'; 'rkthunga@interposting.com';
| 'rexb@starbourne.com'; 'larsga@garshol.priv.no';
'Holger.Rath@empolis.com'
| 
| 
| Karl
| 
| I'm quite puzzled by your message. I don't know about my colleagues
Lars
| Marius and Holger, but I certainly missed, on purpose, the distinguo
| between "public comment" and "public discussion". In Topic Maps land,
all
| standardization process has always been very open and public. Maybe
it's
| again OASIS rules, but letting people *comment* without ability to
| *discuss* is something that I just can't understand, and even less
| *stand*. "We've heard what you have to say, thanks, we'll take it into
| account". This is the way it is done in many places, yes ... why? I
| wonder. And those places in any case I fly away from.
| For me, either a process is public, and there is a forum for public
| discussion, either it is not for some good reason, and all is private:
no
| public discussion, no public comment. Concerning our TCs (Published
| Subjects) work, I don't see *any* reason not to have public
discussion. I
| would say the more we have, the better.
| 
| The work of Published Subjects TCs is deeply connected with other
working
| groups, like ISO SC34/WG3, or recently XRI, and hopefully other to
come,
| like OWL. Issues are discussed back and forth. If not on the public
lists,
| where are those exchanges supposed to be made?
| 
| In which way public discussion is a problem? For whom?
| Why should the discussion be "prevented"?
| 
| This latter expression just frightens me ... sorry, I've always been a
man
| of free speech. Is OASIS the wrong place for that? I hope not.
| 
| Regards
| 
| Bernard
| _____________________________________
| 
| Bernard Vatant
| Senior Consultant - Knowledge Engineering
| www.mondeca.com
| _____________________________________
| 
| 
| | -----Original Message-----
| | From: Karl Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
| | Sent: mardi 4 février 2003 18:52
| | To: rkthunga@interposting.com; rexb@starbourne.com;
| | bernard.vatant@mondeca.com; larsga@garshol.priv.no;
| | Holger.Rath@empolis.com
| |
| | Ranjeeth and Rex (HumanML):
| | Bernard, Lars, Holger (TopicMaps):
| |
| | As part of moving our TC operations to the Kavi system I'm looking
at
| | how our mail lists should be configured. I'm concerned specifically
| | about the TC comment lists. When I refer back to the OASIS TC
Process
| | (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.shtml#visibility) I
see:
| |
| | "...Each TC shall be provided upon formation with a general list and
a
| | comment list.... The purpose of the TC comment list is to receive
| | comments from the public and is not for public discussion. The
comment
| | list of a TC shall be publicly subscribable. TCs shall not be
required
| | to respond to comments...."
| |
| | In particular I'm very concerned that various comment lists have
turned
| | into public discussion lists, yours in particular -- which I why I'm
| | corresponding with just you instead of all of the chairs.
| |
| | I need to set up the comment lists so that they can be used as
intended
| | simply for one-way communication, i.e. submission of comments from
the
| | public to the TC. A simple way to accomplish this would be for
messages
| | from the comment list to be forwarded to the TC list, but I have
doubts
| | of whether that would prevent discussions. The other option would be
for
| | the comments to be sent strictly to the chair, or to a small number
of
| | people nominated by the chair. But I'm not sure how this fits with
the
| | requirement that "The comment list of a TC shall be publicly
| | subscribable." Another option is to have the comment lists moderated
by
| | someone (who? the chair?) so that discussion can be prevented.
| |
| | Comments?
| |
| |
| | -Karl
| |
| | =================================================================
| | Karl F. Best
| | Vice President, OASIS
| | +1 978.667.5115 x206
| | karl.best@oasis-open.org  http://www.oasis-open.org