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Doing it in this way makes it compatible with generic Topic Map engines. Cheers, Tony. ==== Anthony B. Coates, Information & Software Architect mailto:abcoates@TheOffice.net Reuters Messaging: abcoates.londonmarketsystems.com@reuters.net ==== MDDL Editor (Market Data Definition Language), http://www.mddl.org/ FpML AWG Member (Financial Products Markup Language), http://www.fpml.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 00:19:46 +0100 From: Lars Marius Garshol <larsga@garshol.priv.no> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> Sender: larsga@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Lines: 28 References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> * Max Voskob | | Could anyone prove that I'm wrong in my supposition that XTM cannot | be legitimately extended thru elements and attributes from other | namespaces? No, but I can prove you right. See the fourth bullet point at <URL: http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/#conf-doc > | Lets say that I want to add a couple more attributes from another | namespace to instanceOf element. I can't see any way how it can be | done at the moment. You can do it easily, as Tony says, but no topic map implementation will support it. Another question is why you would want to. If you want to say something about the relationship between an instance and its class topic maps offer you ways to do that *within* the TM paradigm. | Is there actually a namespace identifier for the current version of | XTM? It's http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian <URL: http://www.ontopia.net > GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 <URL: http://www.garshol.priv.no > ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:22:16 -0500 From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> [Lars Marius Garshol > | Is there actually a namespace identifier for the current version of > | XTM? > > It's http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/. > The normative DTD in the XTM 1.0 Spec says the namespace URI is http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/ Which one is the typo? Cheers, Tom P ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:15:11 +1300 From: Conal Tuohy <conalt@paradise.net.nz> Subject: RE: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <000f01c2cf07$25d65780$d9784fcb@insurgentes.local> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> > [Lars Marius Garshol > > > | Is there actually a namespace identifier for the current > version of > > | XTM? > > > > It's http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/. > > Tom P wrote: > The normative DTD in the XTM 1.0 Spec says the namespace URI is > > http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/ > > Which one is the typo? A comment in the DTD says: <!-- Use this URI to identify the default XTM namespace: "http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/" Used to identify the XLink namespace: "http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" --> ... but later the DTD actually uses a lower-case version of the URL: <!ATTLIST topicMap id ID #IMPLIED xmlns CDATA #FIXED 'http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/' xmlns:xlink CDATA #FIXED 'http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink' xml:base CDATA #IMPLIED > Cheers Con ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:20:07 +1000 From: Robert Barta <rho@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> Sender: Robert Barta <rho@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> To: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@comcast.net> Cc: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Reply-to: rho@bigpond.net.au Message-id: <20030208002007.GA7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 06:22:16PM -0500, Thomas B. Passin wrote: > [Lars Marius Garshol > > > | Is there actually a namespace identifier for the current version of > > | XTM? > > > > It's http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/. > > > > The normative DTD in the XTM 1.0 Spec says the namespace URI is > > http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/ > > Which one is the typo? To my knowledge a namespace identifier is either a URN or a URL. In case of a URL the capitalization of the machine part is not relevant. [ RFC 2396 ] Section 6. \rho ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:25:37 +1000 From: Robert Barta <rho@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> Sender: Robert Barta <rho@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> To: Lars Marius Garshol <larsga@garshol.priv.no> Cc: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Reply-to: rho@bigpond.net.au Message-id: <20030208002537.GB7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:46AM +0100, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > | Lets say that I want to add a couple more attributes from another > | namespace to instanceOf element. I can't see any way how it can be > | done at the moment. > > You can do it easily, as Tony says, but no topic map implementation > will support it. Minor modification: "...no topic map implementation can directly support it natively". If you are lucky, though, the implementation provides techniques like a SAX parser for XTM. Here you can either subclass the parser and add your semantics to it. Or, you can create a SAX pipeline in which you handle your attributes before the SAX-XTM parser. But I agree with Lars that you should trick to stick to the TM paradigm as long as possible. \rho ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:39:52 -0500 From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <000a01c2cf34$80f05bc0$6401a8c0@tbp1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> <20030208002007.GA7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> [Robert Barta] > > > | Is there actually a namespace identifier for the current version of > > > | XTM? > > > > > > It's http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/. > > > > > > > The normative DTD in the XTM 1.0 Spec says the namespace URI is > > > > http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/ > > > > Which one is the typo? > > To my knowledge a namespace identifier is either a URN or a URL. In > case of a URL the capitalization of the machine part is not relevant. > > [ RFC 2396 ] Section 6. > True when used as a resource address, but namespace URIs are compared on a character-by-character exact match basis __for namespace purposes__, and the two do not produce the same results - one will work and the other will not work (with an xslt processor, for example, or most other standard name-space aware xml processors). I think the all-lower case version is the one that is mostly in use out there. Does anyone know if there are many (or any) exceptions? Cheers, Tom P ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:30:35 +0100 From: Lars Marius Garshol <larsga@garshol.priv.no> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> Sender: larsga@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <m3hebfnmpw.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Lines: 23 References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> * Thomas B. Passin | | The normative DTD in the XTM 1.0 Spec says the namespace URI is | | http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/ | | Which one is the typo? The all-lowercase version appears in the attribute declaration, as Conal says; it also appears in section 4.3, and the PSIs all use the lowercase version. The new XTM syntax specification quietly corrects this by using the lowercase version everywhere: <URL: http://www.y12.doe.gov/sgml/sc34/document/0328.htm > Notice how in appendix B the exact same DTD appears, with the one difference that the URI has been lowercased. :-) -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian <URL: http://www.ontopia.net > GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 <URL: http://www.garshol.priv.no > ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 05:52:13 -0500 From: Patrick Durusau <pdurusau@emory.edu> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD To: rho@bigpond.net.au Cc: Lars Marius Garshol <larsga@garshol.priv.no>, topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Reply-to: pdurusau@emory.edu Message-id: <3E44E15D.8000606@emory.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pe9Uto8SBwVEcbxx6tf8ww)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> <20030208002537.GB7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> --Boundary_(ID_pe9Uto8SBwVEcbxx6tf8ww) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Robert, One more slight modification, ;-) Robert Barta wrote: >On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:46AM +0100, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > > >>| Lets say that I want to add a couple more attributes from another >>| namespace to instanceOf element. I can't see any way how it can be >>| done at the moment. >> >>You can do it easily, as Tony says, but no topic map implementation >>will support it. >> >> > >Minor modification: > >"...no topic map implementation can directly support it natively". > > Modified slightly more: ....no solely XTM topic map implementation can directly support it natively. <snip> >But I agree with Lars that you should trick to stick to the TM >paradigm as long as possible. > > For ease in going from one XTM implementation to another, the value of following the XTM syntax cannot be doubted. However, it should be noted that: XTM syntax != TM paradigm. (You can check ISO 13250 if you are curious about other syntaxes for topic maps.) Patrick -- Patrick Durusau Director of Research and Development Society of Biblical Literature pdurusau@emory.edu Co-Editor, ISO Reference Model for Topic Maps --Boundary_(ID_pe9Uto8SBwVEcbxx6tf8ww) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> Robert,<br> <br> One more slight modification, ;-)<br> <br> Robert Barta wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20030208002537.GB7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au"> <pre wrap="">On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:46AM +0100, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">| Lets say that I want to add a couple more attributes from another | namespace to instanceOf element. I can't see any way how it can be | done at the moment. You can do it easily, as Tony says, but no topic map implementation will support it. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> Minor modification: "...no topic map implementation can directly support it natively". </pre> </blockquote> Modified slightly more: ....no solely XTM topic map implementation can directly support it natively.<br> <br> <snip><br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20030208002537.GB7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au"> <pre wrap=""> But I agree with Lars that you should trick to stick to the TM paradigm as long as possible. </pre> </blockquote> For ease in going from one XTM implementation to another, the value of following the XTM syntax cannot be doubted. <br> <br> However, it should be noted that: XTM syntax != TM paradigm. (You can check ISO 13250 if you are curious about other syntaxes for topic maps.)<br> <br> Patrick<br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="$mailwrapcol">-- Patrick Durusau Director of Research and Development Society of Biblical Literature <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pdurusau@emory.edu">pdurusau@emory.edu</a> Co-Editor, ISO Reference Model for Topic Maps </pre> <br> </body> </html> --Boundary_(ID_pe9Uto8SBwVEcbxx6tf8ww)-- --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 17:32:56 +0100 From: Lars Marius Garshol <larsga@garshol.priv.no> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <3E44E15D.8000606@emory.edu> Sender: larsga@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <m3d6m2ohqf.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Lines: 22 References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> <20030208002537.GB7532@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> <3E44E15D.8000606@emory.edu> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> * Robert Barta | | But I agree with Lars that you should trick to stick to the TM | paradigm as long as possible. * Patrick Durusau | | For ease in going from one XTM implementation to another, the value | of following the XTM syntax cannot be doubted. | | However, it should be noted that: XTM syntax != TM paradigm. (You | can check ISO 13250 if you are curious about other syntaxes for | topic maps.) You missed Robert's point, I'm afraid. He was saying that whatever you wanted to attach an attribute to the <instanceOf> element to express would be better expressed using topics, associations, and occurrences. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian <URL: http://www.ontopia.net > GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 <URL: http://www.garshol.priv.no > ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:43:38 +0100 From: Steve Pepper <pepper@ontopia.net> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD In-reply-to: <006401c2ceff$c0f43f50$6401a8c0@tbp1> X-Sender: pepper@mail.ontopia.net To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030209184210.00be8448@mail.ontopia.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <002301c2cb4a$0dd6baf0$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> <m38ywtov3h.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> At 18:22 07.02.2003 -0500, Thomas B. Passin wrote: >[Lars Marius Garshol > > > | Is there actually a namespace identifier for the current version of > > | XTM? > > > > It's http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/. > > > >The normative DTD in the XTM 1.0 Spec says the namespace URI is > >http://www.topicMaps.org/xtm/1.0/ > >Which one is the typo? The latter. See http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/errata.html, Known errata 2002/05/23. Steve -- Steve Pepper, Chief Executive Officer <pepper@ontopia.net> Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34/WG3 Editor, XTM (XML Topic Maps) Ontopia AS, Waldemar Thranes gt. 98, N-0175 Oslo, Norway. http://www.ontopia.net/ phone: +47-23233080 GSM: +47-90827246 ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 23:44:53 -0500 From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Message-id: <003001c2d0bf$27169ec0$6401a8c0@tbp1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <DB658F3519D2B040A02D8D0C2B4803D3927E5B@srv002-cgn.cologne.eur.slb.com> <000f01c2cc58$7fa344f0$6401a8c0@tbp1> <007f01c2cca9$28c25940$e62100ca@johnson69biiow> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> I tried my hand at creating an XML Schema for XTM too, and ended up with a somewhat different structure. Just for fun I am including it below. I believe it has got everything except the xml:base attribute, which I left off for now because I did not get around to creating a separate little schema for it, which you have to do because it is in another namespace. In this version, I tried to avoid duplication. Most constructions that appear more than once, I turned into model groups. Any element like instanceOf which contains one of those groups but also has an id (and possibly other attributes), I made a type for, and the type uses the model group. I used model groups partly because I like them, but also there is at least one case where the same sequence of elements is used (in different places) with and without a wrapper element. The use without the wrapper just uses the model group (otherwise it would have to use an anonymous complex type), for the other one I created a named complex type. This approach has, I think, eliminated all duplication while keeping the schema simple and reasonably understandable. This design probably would not fall out of an automatic translation of an RNG schema, and although I favor having a normative RNG schema, I have to admit that more people will probably be served (at least for several years) by an XML Schema version, whether normative or not. I made the schema for xlink attributes define just the subset of xlink xtm uses - href and type (fixed at "simple"). Here is the xlink schema first and then the main schema. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <xs:schema targetNamespace="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" attributeFormDefault="qualified"> <xs:attribute name="href" type="xs:anyURI"/> <xs:attribute name="type" fixed="simple"/> </xs:schema> ================================================== <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <xs:schema targetNamespace="http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/" xmlns:xtm="http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" elementFormDefault="qualified"> <xs:import namespace="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" schemaLocation="xlink4.xsd"/> <xs:element name="topicMap"> <xs:complexType> <xs:choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"> <xs:element name="topic"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="instanceOf" type="xtm:instanceOfType" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> <xs:element name="subjectIdentity" minOccurs="0"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="resourceRef" type="xtm:XLinkType" minOccurs="0"/> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableSubject.grp" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"> <xs:element name="baseName"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="scope" type="xtm:scopeType" minOccurs="0"/> <xs:element name="baseNameString"> <xs:complexType> <xs:simpleContent> <xs:extension base="xs:string"> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:extension> </xs:simpleContent> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:element name="variant" type="xtm:variantType" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:element name="occurrence"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="instanceOf" type="xtm:instanceOfType" minOccurs="0"/> <xs:element name="scope" type="xtm:scopeType" minOccurs="0"/> <xs:group ref="xtm:resource.grp"/> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> </xs:choice> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:element name="association"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="instanceOf" type="xtm:instanceOfType" minOccurs="0"/> <xs:element name="scope" type="xtm:scopeType" minOccurs="0"/> <xs:element name="member" maxOccurs="unbounded"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="roleSpec" minOccurs="0"> <xs:complexType> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableSubject.grp"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableResource.grp" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:element name="mergeMap"> <xs:complexType> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableResource.grp" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> </xs:choice> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> <!--xs:attribute ref="xml:base" type="xs:string"/--> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:group name="addressableResource.grp"> <xs:choice> <xs:element name="topicRef" type="xtm:XLinkType"/> <xs:element name="resourceRef" type="xtm:XLinkType"/> <xs:element name="subjectIndicatorRef" type="xtm:XLinkType"/> </xs:choice> </xs:group> <xs:group name="addressableSubject.grp"> <xs:choice> <xs:element name="topicRef" type="xtm:XLinkType"/> <xs:element name="subjectIndicatorRef" type="xtm:XLinkType"/> </xs:choice> </xs:group> <xs:group name="resource.grp"> <xs:choice> <xs:element name="resourceRef" type="xtm:XLinkType"/> <xs:element name="resourceData"> <xs:complexType> <xs:simpleContent> <xs:extension base="xs:string"> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:extension> </xs:simpleContent> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> </xs:choice> </xs:group> <xs:complexType name="instanceOfType"> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableSubject.grp"/> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> <xs:complexType name="scopeType"> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableResource.grp" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> <xs:complexType name="variantType"> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="parameters"> <xs:complexType> <xs:group ref="xtm:addressableSubject.grp" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:element name="variantName" minOccurs="0"> <xs:complexType> <xs:group ref="xtm:resource.grp"/> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:element name="variant" type="xtm:variantType" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> </xs:complexType> <xs:complexType name="XLinkType"> <xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/> <xs:attribute ref="xlink:href"/> <xs:attribute ref="xlink:type"/> </xs:complexType> </xs:schema> ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:00:10 +1000 From: Robert Barta <rho@bigpond.net.au> Subject: [topicmaps-comment] FYI: AsTMa= -> XTM converter online Sender: Robert Barta <rho@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> To: topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: rho@bigpond.net.au, Erick Rezende <erickalvesrezende@yahoo.com.br> Reply-to: rho@bigpond.net.au Message-id: <20030211030010.GA17175@namod.qld.bigpond.net.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> Hi, For all of you who would like to use AsTMa= but do not have a converter (available in the Perl distribution only) at hand, I have resurrected the online converter: http://astma.it.bond.edu.au/cvt/index.mc Aside from inline editing, it also allows automated conversion. To convert, say, the latest Apache map (I know that some of you are bundling it with your software), you can take the AsTMa= version http://demo:demo@topicmaps.it.bond.edu.au/mda/download-astma/apache/ off the server and chop it into the converter http://astma.it.bond.edu.au/cvt/index.mc?action=download&atmurl=http://demo:demo@topicmaps.it.bond.edu.au/mda/download-astma/apache/&auto_complete=on&format=on [ URL may wrap, processing may take time ] \rho ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:20:20 +0100 From: "Rath, Holger (empolis KL)" <Holger.Rath@empolis.com> Subject: [topicmaps-comment] ANNOUNCEMENT: First German Topic Maps Congress at April 10, 2003 in Darmstadt To: "OASIS TopicMaps.Org (E-Mail)" <topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> Message-id: <9575AFDF9117D511BFA400508BEECD97011CF9B9@empdewu01.empolis.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> [Apologies if you receive this announcement more than once] Call for participation ----------------------------------------------------- "XML Topic Maps" Congress April 10, 2003 Darmstadt, Germany ----------------------------------------------------- First German Topic Maps Congress at April 10, 2003 in Darmstadt The first German Topic Maps Congress will take place at April 10, 2003 in Darmstadt. The "XML Topic Maps" congress is organized by ZGDV (http://www.zgdv.de) - well known for its successful series of XML congresses - and sponsored by empolis (http://www.empolis.com). Ten presenters (users, vendors, academics) will talk about how Topic Maps work, available tools, how to develop Topic Maps, how to visualize them, and how to integrate them with the Semantic Web approach. Real-world use cases will demonstrate various applications of Topic Maps. The keynote, presented by empolis CTO Stefan Wess, will provide the latest trends and technologies for knowledge management and explain the role Topic Maps play in the KM scenario. The one-day congress will finish with a moderated panel discussion giving the attendees the opportunity for a lively Q&A session. The congress language is German. Find more information at: http://www.zgdv.de/zgdv/Seminar/awf/Aktuell/XMLTop (click on "Zeitplan der Veranstaltung" to view the congress programme) Looking forward to meeting you in Darmstadt! Regards, --Holger -- Dr. H. Holger Rath - Head of Consulting - empolis * GmbH arvato knowledge management part of arvato: a Bertelsmann company Europaallee 10 67657 Kaiserslautern, Germany phone : +49-172-66-90-427 fax : +49-631-303-5507 <mailto:holger.rath@empolis.com> http://www.empolis.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 10:09:46 -0800 From: "Tsao, Scott" <scott.tsao@boeing.com> Subject: [topicmaps-comment] Real-World Applications of Topic Maps To: "List oasis-tmc (E-mail)" <topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> Message-id: <6523CE1AA2AD7547B008D89324FCC42101966070@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6334.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Thread-Topic: Real-World Applications of Topic Maps Thread-Index: AcLjQmdfWM0AZ5pEQKGj4myxFJBM1g== content-class: urn:content-classes:message List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2003 18:09:46.0456 (UTC) FILETIME=[678EE580:01C2E342] One of the most frequently asked questions that I have experienced re= garding Topic Maps is something like this: "What are people really doing with topic maps?" And I often felt unequipped to provide a good answer to this question= . Can people on this list please help out? Thanks, Scott Tsao BCA Information Systems Architecture The Boeing Company P.O. Box 3707, MC 67-EF Seattle, WA 98124-2207 425-234-3761 or 206-544-5740 mailto:scott.tsao@boeing.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:12:30 +0100 From: Andreas Rittershofer <andreas@rittershofer.de> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Real-World Applications of Topic Maps In-reply-to: <6523CE1AA2AD7547B008D89324FCC42101966070@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> X-Sender: 520030673170-0001@t-dialin.net To: "Tsao, Scott" <scott.tsao@boeing.com>, "List oasis-tmc (E-mail)" <topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> Message-id: <3E664C1E.25576.4D4653F@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> On 5 Mar 2003 at 10:09, Tsao, Scott wrote: > One of the most frequently asked questions that I have experienced > regarding Topic Maps is something like this: "What are people reall= y > doing with topic maps?" > > And I often felt unequipped to provide a good answer to this questi= on. > > Can people on this list please help out? I use topic maps and their visualization via SVG for the navigation on my e-learning-server on http://www.LmTM.de (in german). Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Andreas Rittershofer -- E-Learning mit http://www.LmTM.de/ *die* E-Learning-Plattform f=FCr Physik! und Homepage http://www.rittershofer.de/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 17:15:36 -0500 From: "Swartz, William M" <william.m.swartz@lmco.com> Subject: RE: [topicmaps-comment] Real-World Applications of Topic Maps To: "'Tsao, Scott'" <scott.tsao@boeing.com>, "List oasis-tmc (E-mail)" <topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> Message-id: <3F2F205501D3D411878C0008C7E64594074A1C46@emss09m06.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> A description of one actual use (news feeds) is provided in Chapter 7 of the WROX book, Professional XML Meta Data. You might also find leads to other case history info in that chapter, and from some Google searches. One likely source of actual use info would be the representatives of the member commercial entities who are on the XTM standards body. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Tsao, Scott [mailto:scott.tsao@boeing.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:10 PM To: List oasis-tmc (E-mail) Subject: [topicmaps-comment] Real-World Applications of Topic Maps One of the most frequently asked questions that I have experienced regarding Topic Maps is something like this: "What are people really doing with topic maps?" And I often felt unequipped to provide a good answer to this question. Can people on this list please help out? Thanks, Scott Tsao BCA Information Systems Architecture The Boeing Company P.O. Box 3707, MC 67-EF Seattle, WA 98124-2207 425-234-3761 or 206-544-5740 mailto:scott.tsao@boeing.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:00:15 +0100 From: Lars Marius Garshol <larsga@garshol.priv.no> Subject: Re: [topicmaps-comment] Real-World Applications of Topic Maps In-reply-to: <6523CE1AA2AD7547B008D89324FCC42101966070@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> Sender: larsga@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no To: "List oasis-tmc (E-mail)" <topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> Message-id: <m3el5lxt2o.fsf@pc36.avidiaasen.online.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Lines: 27 References: <6523CE1AA2AD7547B008D89324FCC42101966070@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> List-Owner: <mailto:topicmaps-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Post: <mailto:topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/topicmaps-comment/> List-Help: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:topicmaps-comment-request@lists.oasis-open.org?body=help> List-Id: <topicmaps-comment.lists.oasis-open.org> * Scott Tsao | | One of the most frequently asked questions that I have experienced | regarding Topic Maps is something like this: "What are people really | doing with topic maps?" Please see any one of: <URL: http://www.forskning.no > <URL: http://www.hoyre.no > <URL: http://www.avhending.no > <URL: http://www.forbrukerportalen.no > All of these run on topic maps right now, and more will follow before very long. There's also a Norwegian governmental project to connect governmental information in each district (kommune) and provide a coherent interface to it (LivsIT) that's currently using TMs. Another example is: <URL: http://www.idealliance.org/papers/xml2001papers/slides/Seidl/Elmer%20Preview%20-%20XML%202001%20Conference%20-%20Orlando.ppt > There is more, but obviously a number of users keep a lid on what they are doing with TMs. :-( -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian <URL: http://www.ontopia.net > GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 <URL: http://www.garshol.priv.no > ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> --0HBB00J010I0NE--
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