RE: [xtm-wg] RE: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model

[Daniel Rivers-Moore <daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com>]

Latest news 1: Kal is unable to attend at all next week. The week after, I
shall be in San Francisco, then Dallas (for our next XTM face-to-face).

Conclusion: It looks as if we will not get an ISS liaison representative at
our face-to-face, no matter how we play it.

Latest news 2: Graham is able to meet next week on Thursday or Friday.
Matthew is "very busy" next week.

Proposal: Graham and I meet as planned in Swindon this Friday (tomorrow),
and circulate the results of our work (words and UML drawings) to the whole
CMS via this list. Then Graham and I and Chris meet on Thursday 2 November
so Chris can give us specific input and help us review any comments we have
received, and add any specific input of his own. We then circulate what will
hopefully be a "pre-final" draft of the conceptual model for all to review,
before we present it formally at the Dallas meeting on Friday 10 November.

Chris: Can you meet with Graham and me on Thursday 2 November? Can you come
to Swindon, or should we come to London, or can we "meet half-way"?

Matthew: Will you be able to review and submit comments by email between 30
October and 2 November?

Best regards

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Rivers-Moore [mailto:daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com]
Sent: 25 October 2000 12:54
To: Kal Ahmed
Cc: xtm-wg@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] RE: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model
Importance: High


Ok Kal - Graham and I will meet on our own on Friday.

however, Next week we want to do a London-based meeting to bring Matthew and
Chris up to speed with where we are and get their input. This being a "get
up to speed" meeting, it would be great if you could attend. That would not
slow process down, and would help with communication between the CMS and
ISS. It is Steve Pepper who suggested you play the role of liaison from ISS
to CMS, since he can't make it over for this meeting. I hope you can manage
it.

I'm in the process of trying to identify which day will work for everyone.

Kal, Graham, Chris, Matthew, do you have constraints? For me any day but
Tuesday will work.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Kal Ahmed [mailto:kal@ontopia.net]
Sent: 24 October 2000 14:16
To: daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com
Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] RE: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model


Hi Daniel,

I'm not sure that my presence will help move things along faster as you
would need to bring me up to speed on what was accomplished at the Swindon
meeting and in Montreal - it has been quite a while since Paris and the CMS
group have covered a lot of ground - I would hate to force people to cover
it all over again just to bring me into the loop.


Cheers,

Kal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Rivers-Moore [mailto:daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com]
> Sent: 24 October 2000 12:53
> To: 'xtm-wg@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] RE: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model
>
>
> Ann
>
> The motivation for the Friday meeting is to make rapid progress.
> Ideal would
> of course be to have Matthew, Chris and you. As it happens I know you are
> unavailable next week, and Matthew unavailable this week.
>
> Following our phone call, I think we should still meet on Friday - even if
> it is just Graham, me and Kal ... Kal - you've  not confirmed whether you
> can make it to Swindon on Friday. Can you?
>
> I've just had a message in from Chris saying he could be free for
> a meeting
> next week, and can have sight of Matthew's diary tomorrow. This means we
> could choose to switch to a London meeting with Chris and Matthew
> early next
> week, but won't know if this is possible till tomorrow.
>
> For now, therefore, I'm keeping the Friday meeting as ON. We may decide
> tomorrow to do a meeting in London next week, and if we do, we can also
> decide whether to have two meetings or call the Friday meeting off.
>
> Renewed apologies for slowness in getting the CMS meeting minutes
> out to the
> group. I now have notes in from Graham (received this morning). I'm in
> meetings all today, but will get them out this evening --- promise!
>
> Best regards
>
> Daniel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wrightson, Ann [mailto:Ann.Wrightson@sweetandmaxwell.co.uk]
> Sent: 24 October 2000 08:34
> To: 'Daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com'
> Cc: 'xtm-wg@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] RE: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model
>
>
> Daniel...
>
> What is the motivation for this meeting if we do not have input from
> Matthew/Chris (which I believed was the main purpose)? I would
> prefer that:
> *the model was circulated asap right now*; further discussion on
> that-as-is
> happened on-line; this face-to-face meeting's timing is driven by
> Matthew/Chris's availability; and if I cannot coincide, then I respond
> after.
>
> I see a significant danger of this meeting-as-now-conceived serving mainly
> (even though I'm sure there will be interesting discusisons) to delay even
> further the posting of the model to CMS - never mind the wider
> xtm-wg! - and
> I'm actually waiting for it (in some frustration.....) in order to respond
> properly to the ISS output from the week-end.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ann W.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Rivers-Moore [mailto:daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com]
> > Sent: 23 October 2000 19:25
> > To: Chris Angus
> > Cc: 'xtm-wg@egroups.com'
> > Subject: [xtm-wg] RE: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris. A pity the date doesn't work for you and
> > Matthew. I know Ann
> > is away the whole of the following week. So I think we should
> > go ahead and
> > have our meeting anyway, and circulate the results to you and
> > Matthew for
> > you to review. Then if necessary we can have a further
> > conversation (if not
> > meeting) during the week Ann is away.
> >
> > Conclusion - Graham, Ann, Kal (if you can come) and Daniel
> > will meet at
> > RivCom's offices on Friday 27th. Let's say 10 till 4.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Angus Associates [mailto:Angus.Associates@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 23 October 2000 18:40
> > To: Daniel Rivers-Moore
> > Subject: Re: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model
> >
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > Unfortunately I cannot make 27th as I have a lunchtime
> > presentation.  Also
> > Matthew is on holiday all this week in the land of the mafia.
> >
> > Apologies and regards
> > Chris Angus
> > Home: +44 (0) 16977 41504
> > SSI: +44 (0) 207 934 4960
> > Fax: +44 (0) 16977 41666
> > Chris.Angus@BTinternet.com or Chris.C.Angus@opc.shell.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Rivers-Moore" <daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com>
> > To: "Graham Moore" <gdm@stepuk.com>; "Matthew West"
> > <matthew_west@compuserve.com>; "Chris Angus"
> > <angus.associates@btinternet.com>; "Ann Wrightson"
> > <a.m.wrightson@bcs.org.uk>; <xtm-wg@egroups.com>
> > Cc: "Daniel Rivers-Moore" <daniel.rivers-moore@rivcom.com>
> > Sent: 23 October 2000 12:21
> > Subject: Next face-to-face on Topic Maps model
> >
> >
> > > At the Topic Maps meeting in Swindon last weekend, we
> > agreed we'd try and
> > > have a one-day get-together of the UK-based members of the
> > conceptual
> > > modelling group in order to take the work forward to the next stage.
> > >
> > > I've managed to liaise with Ann, and left messages with
> > Graham, Chris and
> > > Matthew.
> > >
> > > Can we have a full day session at RivCom's offices in
> > Swindon on Friday
> > this
> > > week - 27 October?
> > >
> > > RSVP Urgent, please
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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