RE: [xtm-wg] Re: The Future of TopicMaps.Org

["Jean Delahousse" <jean.delahousse@mondeca.com>]

Murray,

I think you are right "Semantic Web" is a bag.

What defines Semantic Web is what you find in the bag today, that will give
you an idea of what Semantic Web adress as technical subjects.

It's what have been done by the European Commission who is getting ready to
help semantic web technologies.

I went to that first presentation of "semantic web" works and projects last
november and here are some of the issues adressed :
- automatic metadata over content
- automatic metadata over multimedia document
- classification and navigation over content using metadata
- Organization of subjects (TM / RDF)
- Ontology tools
- Multilingual ontology (more or less universal)
- Navigation tools (text, graphical...) over text or multimedia documents...
- ....

If you look closely and try to understand the articulation between those
differents layers of projects, I think one can get a pretty clear idea of
what is "semantic web".

Let's compare the work done in the last 15 years to allowed computers to
communicate with each other through worldwide networks and the semantic web
initiative. I don't think anyone had a clear schema of what will be the
final result of all the work done on very different level to allow computer
to exchange so easily, but all the partial initiatives and a very general
schema like "lets all those lonely computers connected to each other" gave a
good result.

I think the same kind of think will happen for the Semantic Web : a schema
like "lets all those documents organized, linked, sharabled and processable
by smart soft and by humans" should be enough to get somethink quite
interesting and usefull.


Sincerly

Jean Delahousse
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Murray.Altheim@eng.sun.com [mailto:Murray.Altheim@eng.sun.com]De la
> part de Murray Altheim
> Envoyé : mardi 1 mai 2001 13:12
> À : xtm-wg@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [xtm-wg] Re: The Future of TopicMaps.Org
>
>
> Bernard Vatant wrote:
> >
> >  [Murray]
> >
> > > Before I attempt to answer such a loaded question, might
> anyone actually
> > > *define* the "Semantic Web", and I don't mean some rather vague notion
> > > of adding "knowledge on the web." What real problem(s) are
> you actually
> > > trying to solve? What possible software do you plan to implement, or
> > > could even conceive of implementing?  I don't know how anyone could
> > > define a set of deliverables very well given the rather ambiguous or
> > > nonexistent requirements. All I've seen so far are vague notions of
> > > metadata and ontologies, technologies that already exist.
> >
> > Did you read this article and does not it somehow address your question?
> >
> > http://www.scientificamerican.com/2001/0501issue/0501berners-lee.html
>
> Yes, I've read it. I consider that article marketing, not a
> technical plan.
> I'm interested in hearing what someone who thinks they want to implement
> "the Semantic Web" actually thinks it will be implentation-wise. Again,
> what real problem is he trying to solve? It's not that there aren't
> technical problems to solve, but "Semantic Web" is currently just a bag
> in which to throw a lot of ideas that have something to do with
> representing human knowledge outside of our heads, something humans have
> been doing since they invented writing systems. Heck, we've been doing
> it since we started communicating with grunts:
>
>   OG:  "Grunt, grunt, grunt!"
>   UG:  "Grunt?"
>   OG:  "Grunt, *grunt* [1]"
>   UG:  "Grunt?"
>   OG:  "Grunt. Grunt, grunt grunt grunt grunt!"
>   UG:  (to himself) "I've got to talk to a lawyer about the IP on
> this one."
>
> Murray
>
> [1]
http://interact.nps.navy.mil/Navigation/LandNavigation/htm/grunt-index.htm
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Murray Altheim                            <mailto:altheim&#x40;eng.sun.com>
XML Technology Center
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      In the evening
      The rice leaves in the garden
      Rustle in the autumn wind
      That blows through my reed hut.  -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu

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