Re: [xtm-wg] Digest Number 301

["Leonid Ototsky" <leo@mgn.ru>]

Dear Collegues,

Supose there are some principle problems to solve for creating  SW.
And not only technical ones but the social too.
For example what about  the "multiple" not connected activites around the
problem ?
Look for example to the  OMG's activity  around an integration of UML-2,
MOF-2, XML and  CWM by XMI . Or the ISO TC184/SC4 activity around the IIDEAS
project
( www.iso18876.org ) .
I wrote about some problems last year in a paper  but it is in Russian.
www.osp.ru/os/2000/03/076.htm
There is a full machine rather poor translation to English (see TRANSLATION
part at the end of the correspondence -
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/suo/email/msg01920.html  )

Regards,
Leonid
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Leonid Ototsky, -  www.mgn.ru/~ototsky/ototskyhome.html
Chief Specialist of the Computer Center,
Magnitogorsk Iron&Steel Works,
Russia
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>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:24:10 +0600
>    From: "Danny Ayers" <danny@panlanka.net>
> Subject: RE: An Approach to the Semantic Web
>
> >tools available for queries.  For XTM, the benefit may come from the
> >easiness for semantic discovery and enrichment (e.g., discovering
> >topics and adding associations).
>
> I'm not yet very familiar with topic maps, are you saying that there are
> tools already available for XTM for discovering topics and adding
> associations?
>
> And, as we expand on the scenarios,
> >we could probably find areas that neither RDF nor XTM fit the bill.
> >Then perhaps we would resort to some other technologies (e.g.,
> >DAML+OIL) to get to where we want to be.
>
> DAML+OIL is now in RDF ???
>
> >What I am proposing here is to look at those "SW technologies"
> >through a different lens, not from the technologist's perspective,
> >but from the end-user's perspective.  I think the myriad SW-related
> >articles flooding our screens today are mostly from the former, but
> >very few from the latter.  I would encourage people continue to write
> >SW-related articles, but preferably following this outline:
> >1. What is the business problem?
> >2. What is the proposed business solution? (senarios and use cases)
> >3. What are the potential technical approaches?
> >4. Which technical solution works best and why?
> >5. How can the proposed technical solution be developed and
> >implemented?
> >6. What are the available standards and tools (if any)?
> >
> >Any thoughts?
>
> Not long ago I posted a similar list on rdf-interest (prompted by a
comment
> by Murray Altheim on this list, ber-doiyiing) FYI :
>
> 1. What are the problems (clearly defined in black & white) that the SW
> system will solve?
>
> 2. What are the (clearly identified) goals? (particularly those that have
> already been reached or are likely to be reached in the near future)
>
> 3. What new (clearly defined) opportunities will be enabled by the SW?
>
> and what about a progress report :
>
> 4. Approximately how many web sites are incorporating metadata in a
> 'Semantic Web' fashion? (by which I mean something a little more than HTML
> meta tags - maybe if the figure was quoted for the use of RDF?)
>
> 5. How many agents are active in a 'Semantic Web' fashion? (again,
something
> a little more than a traditional search engine or a non-reasoning feed)
>
> 6. How many end users are currently benefitting from the SW?
>
> 7. How many will be in a year's time? (5 years?)
>
> 8. When will the SW appear in an edition of 'The Road Ahead' as 'what I
> planned all along'?
>
> The response I got was largely along the lines of "we won't know until we
> get there" together with a bit of "one small step at a time" and some "we
> need to make sure the architecture's right for this to work".
Interestingly
> no-one saw fit to answer any of the questions directly.
>
> ---
> Danny Ayers
> http://www.isacat.net
>



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