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Subject: [topicmaps-comment] RE: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD


Title: RE: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD

Couldn't the OASIS TM community *recommend* an XSD version?
There are many use cases when a schema is necessary today - do we like this or not.
We should not wait until all the "rest of the standard settles out".

I think Max Voskob has posted a valuable draft yesterday. It looks quite reasonable as a schema.
But I am not the XTM expert. Did anyone test it with a given XTM?
 

Thomas Bandholtz
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mason, James David (MXM) [mailto:masonjd@y12.doe.gov]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:05 PM
> To: 'Max Voskob'; topicmapmail@infoloom.com;
> topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD
>
>
> Making XSD supersede DTD is one thing that SC34 can't do, no
> matter what the
> claimed capabilities of XSD. DTD is SC34's creation, so it
> gets automatic
> priority.
>
> Notice also that XTM is, as mentioned in several other
> postings, only an
> interchange format. It is not the definition of what a Topic
> Map is: that's
> done elsewhere and is being expanded on in other parts of the
> standard, some
> of which are works in progress. When the rest of the Topic
> Map standard
> settles out, then we can revisit interchange formats.
>
> Jim Mason
>
> James David Mason, Ph.D.
>
> Y-12 National Security Complex
> Bldg. 9113, M.S. 8208
> P.O. Box 2009
> Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8208 U.S.A.
> +1 865 574 6973
>
> Chairman, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
> http://www.y12.doe.gov/sgml/sc34/sc34oldhome.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Max Voskob [mailto:mvoskob@msi.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:29 PM
> To: topicmapmail@infoloom.com; topicmaps-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD
>
>
> DTD has more limitations than XSD.
>
> I'd prefer to see an XSD schema as the source of truth, DTD
> for those who
> are still using it and RelaxNG can also normative as long as
> the target XML
> document is still valid for the XSD.
>
> However, UDDI we will need an XSD schema of XTM for adoption.
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel L. Koger" <daniel@kogers.com>
> To: "Steve Pepper" <pepper@ontopia.net>; <topicmapmail@infoloom.com>
> Cc: "Max Voskob" <mvoskob@msi.net.nz>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD
>
>
> > That would definitely have my support :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Pepper [mailto:pepper@ontopia.net]
> > Sent: Sun 2/2/2003 08:22
> > To: topicmapmail@infoloom.com
> > Cc: Daniel L. Koger; Max Voskob
> > Subject: Re: [topicmapmail] XML Schema for XTM DTD
> >
> >
> >
> > At 17:15 02.02.2003 +0100, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> > >| It is acceptable if the DTD is normative, but it would
> be nice to at
> > >| least have a consistent format for schema.
> > >
> > >If there is a need for an XSDL schema I agree it would be good if
> > >everyone used the same schema. One way to achieve that is
> to make it
> > >an informative annex to the ISO standard.
> >
> > I think this is the way to go. Have the DTD be normative and publish
> > an XSD "translation" as an annex.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --
> > Steve Pepper, Chief Executive Officer <pepper@ontopia.net>
> > Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34/WG3  Editor, XTM (XML Topic Maps)
> > Ontopia AS, Waldemar Thranes gt. 98, N-0175 Oslo, Norway.
> > http://www.ontopia.net/ phone: +47-23233080 GSM: +47-90827246
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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