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Subject: RE: [tosca-comment] RE: TOSCA / User Portal Object patterns alignment (Starfish is setting up a open call with ONAP, and TOSCA if you guys care to join)
Hi Manas (and Michael B.), I believe it appropriate to view this as a proposed meeting of interested experts from multiple domains, e.g., Starfish, TOSCA, ONAP, not an OASIS TC meeting,
so I certainly have no objection to you joining in. Michael, please be aware that the TOSCA-comment email reflector is public comment list most typically used for input/suggestions to the TOSCA TC. If you will be
sharing phone/conferencing information, it will be made public if sent to that email reflector.
Regards, Paul From: Manas Mal [mailto:MMal@advaoptical.com] Hi Paul This is Manas from ADVA optical Networking. We are developing solution around ZTP using the Tosca model. We would also like to get engaged in this discussions. Please include me in the meeting invite as well. Thanks Manas Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: "Lipton, Paul C" <Paul.Lipton@ca.com>
Date: 03/02/2018 01:13 (GMT+05:30) To: "Bugenhagen, Michael K" <Michael.K.Bugenhagen@centurylink.com>, Chris Lauwers <lauwers@ubicity.com>, Paul Knight <paul.knight@oasis-open.org>
Cc: tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, "Leung, John" <john.leung@intel.com>, "Autor, Jeff" <jeff.autor@hpe.com>,
"Hilland, Jeff" <jeff.hilland@hpe.com>, Ron Insler <RON_i@rad.com>, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>, "Vul, Alex" <alex.vul@intel.com>,
Andy Mayer <am803u@att.com> Subject: [tosca-comment] RE: TOSCA / User Portal Object patterns alignment (Starfish is setting up a open call with ONAP, and TOSCA if you guys care to join)
Mike, Thanks for reaching out. If you would be so kind as to send logistical information, short summary, and proposed agenda to Chris (TOSCA TC Co-chair), Alex Vul (TOSCA
NFV Ad Hoc Workgroup Co-leader), and me, we will be glad to distribute the information to any TOSCA TC member who expresses interest.
Regards, Paul From: Bugenhagen, Michael K [mailto:Michael.K.Bugenhagen@centurylink.com]
Chris, & Paul’s, Starfish and ONAP have been what the universal Portal object pattern should be, and we have found some similarities so we’re going to have an open Discussion call / Meeting Feb 12th.
I would also like to see if we can’t see if there are “common TOSCA” object patterns for User Portals…. Whom on your team should I invite that handles TOSCA resource patterns ? For that matter any of the TOSCA team members are more than welcome to attend the call, we’re just trying to figure out the landscape right now. Thanks, Mike From: <tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of "Bugenhagen, Michael K"
<Michael.K.Bugenhagen@centurylink.com> Chris, We just gave our project a name = Starfish (Redfish, Swordfish, ..) Let me know if your team is having any calls and I and or Ron can present (I’ll probably ask John Leung from Redfish to provide some backup) at one of your calls so we can get better awareness of where the projects are at. Oddly enough (how did that happen) Redfish that is based on Compute / Cloud has all of these.. provided we observe a) below. Starfish is really following the Win-win-win-win from cloud.
these should control the Framework CIM just as they do in Compute /Cloud.
Following the prioritiy, these should be consumer centric.
Zero touch really means Zero if you can automate up to the customer vs. provider The team is really keyed onto these, and is expanding rapidly (making standardize network resources that are vendor neutral for “performance agents” has triggered the Test system vendors to show up to write
applications…. So – let me know what meetings, and or Face to faces meetings you have and we’ll do some cross pollination. (Aka – looking for a win-win with orchestration templates). BTW – I’m one of the few “inter-carrier” ordering Subjet experts so this thing is already aligned for Inter-carrier Ordering, I just haven’t flipped that switch just yet. Best, Mike From: Chris Lauwers <lauwers@ubicity.com> Hi Michael, I’m not that familiar with Redfish (and in fact Oasis TOSCA hasn’t focused much on APIs), but we are engaged in a number of efforts to make sure that TOSCA is aligned with efforts in the telecom industry to define standardized abstractions
and information models:
I’d love to participate in any discussions that can further harmonize various efforts in the industry. Best regards, Chris Lauwers Co-Chair, TOSCA TC From:
tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Bugenhagen, Michael K Paul, and Paul, Ron Insler & I are running the project – and we have discussed how to engage with both groups. At the end of the day we want a protocol / API / Template neutral schema for a NFV (WAN resource) that can be used everywhere, so we definitely will be engaging as part of solving that … what is the common industry schema / pattern, that
is machine readable / consumable (suitable for automation). As a provider I’m also aligning this with a framework for Ordering between providers so that the NFV environement is not only frictionless for a customer in one provider, but in all providers… so long terms we’ll also pull in ONAP,
and ZSM to make sure everyone is on the same page. I’ll circle the architects from each domain and see what they think in terms of proceeding. Best Mike From: "Lipton, Paul C" <Paul.Lipton@ca.com> - Paul From:
tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Lipton, Paul C Hi Mike, I will forward your comment to the TC to see if any member is interested in responding. To my knowledge, there has been no exploration of RedFish within the TC.
As you know, TOSCA is a topological, intent model expressed most commonly in a YAML DSL. We are working, and have members from, a large number of NFV-focused organizations, e.g., ONAP, ETSI, etc. Regards, Paul
From:
tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-comment@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Paul Knight CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CA. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Mike, Thanks for your thoughtful suggestions on likely synergies with TOSCA. As a member of the OASIS staff, I'm not personally a member of the TOSCA Technical Committee (TC), and can't contribute meaningfully to that discussion. Perhaps one or more of the TC members may respond to you directly. I would like to suggest that you consider engaging with the TC personally by becoming a member of OASIS. I note that Intel and HPE (employers of individuals you've copied in your message) are currently members of the TOSCA TC. (OASIS members
are listed at https://www.oasis-open.org/member-roster.) I'll also note that OASIS supports and provides an environment for open source software development associated with our TCs. I've copied our director of TC Administration, Chet Ensign, who can help with any questions you might have about engaging with OASIS and the TOSCA TC. Best regards, Paul On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Bugenhagen, Michael K <Michael.K.Bugenhagen@centurylink.com> wrote:
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