Great! So we now have approvals from Fujitsu, Vnomic and IBM. I have sent a request to Chin to get an approval from Huawei. Once that is in hand, we can ask
Jane to switch to the revised abstract.
Best,
--Richard
From: Matt Rutkowski [mailto:mrutkows@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:58 PM
To: Probst, Richard
Cc: tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Right! I approve the updated abstract text on behalf of IBM.
Kind regards,
Matt
From: "Probst, Richard" <richard.probst@sap.com>
To: Matt Rutkowski/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
Cc: "Lipton, Paul C" <Paul.Lipton@ca.com>, "tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org"
<tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 08/27/2013 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Hi Matt, do you know anybody at IBM who could reply in the affirmative to this? Hey, wait! Could
you confirm on behalf of IBM?
Best,
--Richard
From: Matt Rutkowski [mailto:mrutkows@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:25 AM
To: Probst, Richard
Cc: Lipton, Paul C; tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Hi Richard,
Could you send out an email with altered text to the demo participants from Huawei, Fujitsu, Vnomic and IBM and if each company approves in an email reply we can send revised abstract to Jane.
Kind regards,
Matt
From: "Probst, Richard" <richard.probst@sap.com>
To: "Lipton, Paul C" <Paul.Lipton@ca.com>,
Matt Rutkowski/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
Cc: "tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org"
<tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 08/26/2013 06:19 PM
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Paul, thanks for the kind words, and thanks for your initial improvement to put the value-proposition up front. It wouldn’t have gotten better if you hadn’t suggested that.
I prefer not to wait a week, so I would like to do a fast email vote and switch to the “RP3” version to give to Jane for propagation.
Matt, do you agree with the proposal to do an email vote?
Interop SC members, are there any objections to replacing the paragraph we reviewed in today’s meeting with this version instead?
Document Name:
OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx
Best,
--Richard
From:
tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Lipton, Paul C
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:38 PM
To: Probst, Richard; Matt Rutkowski
Cc: tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Hi Richard (Hemingway),
Many people never look at the long version of a description so this paragraph is important. That said; I think this new version,
RP3,
from you is far superior to the original version (and my own rather rushed attempts to improve it). It is clearly more readable, lays out the value-proposition up front, creates a clearer understanding of what the demo does, and has a lot more “punch.” In
short, thank you, it’s great, and I do think it should be the version used by Jane.
I don’t know if you and Matt prefer an email vote or to wait until next Monday (Labor Day????), but I hope very much that all participants approve RP3. It certainly has my vote.
Thanks again,
Paul
From:
tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Probst, Richard
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:57 PM
To: Matt Rutkowski
Cc: Lipton, Paul C; tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
It is not the way we usually do business in the SC, but I would be willing to vote on the replacement text over email. Give Paul a chance to look at version RP3, then call a vote of the demo participants and see if nobody objects. We could give Jane an improved
version by tomorrow,which does not hold up the promotion too much.
Best,
--Richard
On Aug 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Matt Rutkowski" <mrutkows@us.ibm.com> wrote:
If we resolve on a new abstract (just the demo. participants need to all agree) we can vote on the update next week at the SC and ask Jane to update at that point. Do not want promotion to be held up and we did approve the initial version today.
It is just an abstract to draw awareness and attention. Do no forget that Richard is still working on the larger (~ 500 word) full description to provide Jane shortly which can be infused with more details on value proposition, etc.
Kind regards,
Matt
From: "Probst, Richard" <richard.probst@sap.com>
To: "Lipton, Paul C" <Paul.Lipton@ca.com>,
"tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org" <tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 08/26/2013 01:50 PM
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
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Hi Paul,
Yes, I edited your second upload. You will see the red-lines.
I changed all instances of “This demo” to “The demo” because I believe it reads better, and the context is clear as soon as someone has read the first sentence. But if you really insist, change it back.
Since the SC approved the draft today and Matt immediately sent it to Jane to get it posted ASAP, I think changes should be copied to the SC, so I don’t want to take this offline. We should be able to converge it quickly, before people get sick of the spam.
Best,
--Richard
From:
tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Lipton, Paul C
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:39 AM
To: Probst, Richard; tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the iteration. FYI, there were actually a number of minor and some medium level tweaks, as well, to sentences, e.g. for a minor one, don’t call the demo “the OASIS demo,” but rather “This OASIS demo,” unless you never think we’ll have another OASIS
demo. :-)
More seriously, please bear with me, as I will have to take a look later today. Could you please confirm (offline if you want) that you based this on my second upload (revision #2) at
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tosca-interop/download.php/50444/OASIS%20TOSCA%20Interop%20Demo%20-%20Abstract%20-%202013-08-26%20PL2.docx?
If anybody wants Richard and me to take this often line, just let us know, of course.
Thanks,
Paul
From:
tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Richard Probst
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:26 PM
To: tosca-interop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [tosca-interop] Groups - OASIS TOSCA Interop Demo - Abstract - 2013-08-26 RP3.docx uploaded
Submitter's message
Paul, if we want to put the value proposition first, we can do that. However, I think that this will require a little more editing than simply changing the order of sentences, so I am not comfortable with this revision. In the spirit of rapid iteration, here
is a revision to your revision.
Best,
--Richard
-- Mr. Richard Probst