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Subject: RE: [tosca] tosca.nodes.Database (and Webserver)


Hi Luca,

Returning from vacation... I fully agree with Chris' responses and recommendations.  What we need are concrete use cases / examples showing what you want to do cannot be done or could be done better.  In terms of WAS and DB, please pay attention to the Credential datatype and the Endpoint.Admin capability if you are looking at aligning how userid/passwords would be done consistently across any SoftwareComponent, but something the Simple Profile working group has not had a chance to fully discuss.

Kind regards,
Matt




From:        Chris Lauwers <lauwers@ubicity.com>
To:        Luca Gioppo <luca.gioppo@csi.it>, TOSCA <tosca@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:        06/10/2015 09:44 AM
Subject:        RE: [tosca] tosca.nodes.Database (and Webserver)
Sent by:        <tosca@lists.oasis-open.org>




Hi Luca,
 
Rather than continuing email discussions, I recommend that you:
 
1.       Open up a Jira issue
2.       Participate in the “Simple Profile” meetings on Tuesdays. Here is the URL for the next meeting:
 
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tosca/event.php?event_id=39583
 
Thanks for all your excellent comments,
 
Chris
 
From: tosca@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Luca Gioppo
Sent:
Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:04 AM
To:
TOSCA
Subject:
RE: [tosca] tosca.nodes.Database (and Webserver)

 
Which is the best way to proceed?
Shall I open an issue or continue the discussion here in list?
 
Luca
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Il 9 giugno 2015 alle 23.01 Chris Lauwers <lauwers@ubicity.com> ha scritto:
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Hi Luca,
 
Yes, the Webserver and Database normative node types (as well as many of the other ones) are “lowest common denominator” types that can serve as a starting point for more sophisticated types:
 
1.       You could create subclasses of these types that add properties etc. to support your more advanced use cases.
2.       If there are sufficient commonalities between the various subclasses (of Webserver or of Database) then we should consider moving these into the base class.
 
Do you have any recommendations for what types of attributes/properties/capabilities/requirements etc. you would like to see added into the base classes?
 
thanks,
 
Chris
 
 
From: tosca@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tosca@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Luca Gioppo
 >   Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 1:56 AM
 >   To: TOSCA
 >   Subject: [tosca] tosca.nodes.Database
 
The mapping of database containing the user is again a semplification that collapse the standard to a very simple and many times far from the enterprise approach that is perhaps needed.
It would be better to define accounts in the engine and rights on the DB as in all DBMS systems.
This way we can have the capability to install an engine, a database and one user for read and one user for read/write.
 
Thanks
Luca
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